Oddball_E8 Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 i just shot a british soldier in the allied campaign whilst having the console open and when i shot him i got a -50.000 value to my medals points.it would seem to be logical if you also got a minus for shooting a civilian right? since they are "allied" forces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garic Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 aw crap i blew up a building today that had around 4 allied units inside.. but like 6 axis... hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Maybe if you kill too many civilians, you'll get a killing innocent medal. :badgrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHunter Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 My console doesn't show anything for a civilian kill. No exp, no medal points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamHane Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 What can you say... War is hell :wink: Funny tho, i have quite often seen AI killing civils by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I tried killing an allied civilian (I'm on the Allies) and I got a -50 in the console. But when I kill an Axis civilian (Still on Allies), nothing went down. Weird. I use civilians as human shield. :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHunter Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I use them for target practice :twisted: :twisted:With all that practice my guys still can't aim a bazooka from a 5 step range though :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnaaj Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 In one of the Axis missions in Britain, killing a couple civilians will get you two Welrod silenced pistols... beating 'em into unconciousness should work, too, if you're more sqeamish/less mean. <G> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHunter Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 I think there's no effect for civilians, but if you kill allied soldiers then you'll get negative medal points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPO Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 I think this is a really realistic game... so... as happened in the gulf war... who cares for civilians, children, animals or press workers? :lol: La verdad es que no tiene puta la gracia... en España nos tomamos muy a pecho las muertes NUESTRAS que ha habido y a mi personalmente me jode la postura del gobierno estadounidense con respecto a los daños colaterales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schatten Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 ...civilians have silenced pistols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamagata Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Yeah, they do...but they're marked as enemys. It felt a little strange to shoot at an old lady, but since she fired first...Found her in Britian, the map with the street, two houses and a bar (ok, the bar i visited isn't there anymore :twisted: ) Yama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 SPIES! Only spies would have silenced weapons! Kill them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahkong Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 what about killing armed civilians??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schatten Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 I think, you'll only get penalties if you kill civilians who aren't red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfleet Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I was attacked by a mob of red civilians in a random encounter in Hannover in the Allied campaign. The combat wouldn't end unless I killed them all, and kept restarting anytime I encountered more. Plus, the console gave me medal points for killing them. Very weird. There's something not normal about those "civilians", such as the fact that they attack you with silenced pistols sometimes. Maybe they're enemy spies and guerrillas? Oh, well. Can't go wrong with an "Everything red is dead" policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Better Dead than Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 That`s nice that there`s no penalty for killing enemy civilians. Time for some innocent civilian bloodbath... :R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoTekK Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I was just killing the civvies for fun (they didn't attack, and they also showed up as allies). Damned if it wasn't worth it when I got that silenced Welrod! Even though my custom scout had a familiarity of 5 with her silenced Nagant pistol, I dropped it immediately for the Welrod. As far as those civvies attacking you, I would too were I in their shoes and some bunch of heavily armed assholes just wasted my town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfleet Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I'd have to say this is not a terribly smart survival tactic when dealing with heavily armed assholes that have just wasted the town. And why do they have silenced pistols, anyway? Normal people don't carry around silenced pistols. They must be guerrillas or terrorists or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoTekK Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Bad context, on my part. I was referring more to the civvies that run at you and beat the shit out of you. I actually had an embarassing moment when a civvie managed to kick (literally) the shit out of my main (heavily injured) character after he missed said cvvie with a burst from his SMG. o_O As for not being smart. No, not smart, but I figure they're really gung-ho about their homes. And they probably figure they're going to get wasted anyways, so they might as well go down fighting. That's how I've chosen to see it, anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schatten Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Or maybe they're allied soldiers without uniforms, trying to ambush you? Like the mission where you need to save a German spy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Or maybe they're allied soldiers without uniforms, trying to ambush you? Like the mission where you need to save a German spy.So the solution is - kill every Allie, even civilians :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnaaj Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Actually, they were straight civilians - I had to manually attack (as opposed to "point'n'shoot"), and they didn't do anything offensive. (I think one managed to set off a booby-trapped window in one run-through. Otherwise, they ran around, made noise, opened doors and windows, and all in all got in the way. Oh, and revealed my position. Guess they were comitting suicide. <EG>) The only thing I can think of is that they were either *supposed* to go hostile sometime (altho they never did, even if I didn't kill 'em) or they were accidentally equipped in development. (Maybe they just picked 'em up, klepto or something, but I've not seen any *other* civilian looting.) Mebbe we need a "restraint" mod, where we can handcuff or tie people to the scenery? (And *then* blow up the joint, yeah! <heheheh>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamagata Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Hey, Karnaaj, you're a madman :lol: But i noticed too that the civ's can reveal you and ruin every attempt to sneak. Can't imagine that though: I'm here to rescue those poor people, and they scream an shout "Mr Bad-guy, look, there's a man looking like a plant with this funny metal-and-wood-stick pointed right at your head!". They even followed my mainchar. Looked pretty funny: My sniper crouching in the bushes, accompanied by three chrouching civilians, which occasionally got hit by the brits. :lol: :lol: But I never killed one myself ... I'm too nice for war Yamagata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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