Zombie Posted May 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 I have seen crash landed Terror Ships completely intact before. Though rare (0.3^4 = 0.81%), it can happen. See, for all of the UFO's (except the Battleship and Abductor) the power sources are contained within an "engineering section", a room dedicated to propulsion. All the power sources are clustered together in these rooms increasing the likelihood of a catastrophic power source chain-reaction detonation happening. In laymans terms: if one goes, they all go. For the Battleship and Abductors, the power sources are set apart from each other, with either alien alloy walls or hulls providing "shielding" to keep the power units from taking each other out. For the heck of it, here is a table showing the stats for each UFO in regards to exploding power sources: UFO # of PS's Shielding? % chance all PS's are intact Small Scout 0 No 0% Medium Scout 1 No 30% Large Scout 1 No 30% Harvester 2 No 9% (0.3^2) Abductor 2 Yes 7.5% (30%/1 in 4 chance) Terror Ship 4 No 0.81% (0.3^4) Supply Ship 3 No 2.7% (0.3^3) Battleship 4 Yes 1.875% (30%/1 in 16 chance)So Jman4117, you are correct. As an example, see the stats for the Harvester and Abductor. Both have 2 power sources, but only the Abductor has shielding. It therefore should have the greater chance of both it's PS to remain intact. (It does not due to the calculations involved). The same goes for the Battleship vs. the Terror Ship (1.875% vs. 0.81%). Zombie to the rescue once again, this time with statistics (big shock)! - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 Not 1000 reloads each? awww... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt caedes Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 I had another strange thing lately:A chryssalid was attacking one of my soldiers. After a lot of hits I got this message: "Patrick Blake has become unconscious". Then the chryssalid (it must have been a rookie ) finally managed to turn him into a zombie.Does that happen often? I had never seen it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm turmoil Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 just to drag up a bit of ancient history, I had the 'invisible stealth aliens' bug too. but it was chryssalids (ouch!) I only realised when one of my guys started reaction firing like mad, and then this body sprung out of nowhere... then 4 zombies appeared! I ended up having to saturate the whole section with high explosives to get em all any others had this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Yep....invisible Chryssalids... >.< Your soldiers should be able to see them though....click the flashing red boxes to center on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb Bloke Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Gah! I have it! A proper boxed copy of UFO, with - at last!- a printed manual! And some other stuff too, such as a floppy disc which apparently has some game editors and text files filled with stats/hints. Haven't had time to trawl through it all yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jh316 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 I had a copy of it once with a paper manual, but it was for Playstation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 What version did you get BB? Mine was 1.2 Ufo Defense. It had all those prerelease screenshots and stuff. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehm 98 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Zombie, you have the chance that all the UFO's power sources will stay intacts, but what about the chances that at least 1, 2, or 3 power sources will stay intact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4117 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 multiply the 30% out and get the odds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb Bloke Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Not sure what version this one is. The odds of power supplies varies depending on the craft. If one goes up, and the blast reaches another, then that one'll most likely go up too. And so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Blehm it's like what BB mentioned. If a UFO has power sources clustered together, then if one goes, they all go. Therefore, the only way that one will survive is if they all survive. Use my previous table for these numbers in the case of unshielded Power Sources. For shielded power sources, the odds are significantly better that at least one will survive since the blast is contained. The only two ships that fit this description are the Abductor (2 PS's) and the Battleship (4 PS's). Both ships have power sources separated far enough away from one another to prevent a catastrophic chain-reaction from happening. Here are the odds:Abductor:At least 1 PS surviving: 22.5%At least 2 PS surviving: 15% (neglecting the case where both PS's remain intact)All PS surviving: 7.5% Battleship:At least 1 PS surviving: 28.125%%At least 2 PS surviving: 20.625%At least 3 PS surviving: 7.5%All PS surviving: 1.875% As you can see the odds are much better that at least one power source will survive in a shielded blast. - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb Bloke Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 I don't get it. If 2 abductor PS's survive, wouldn't that have the same odds as if all PS's survive, given that the abductor has two PS's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriptor Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 I've experienced this about 2 days ago:https://bzsolt.next-it.hu/weird.GIF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehm 98 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 that is weird... did you shoot down a lot of UFOs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb Bloke Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I'm thinking it's an underflow. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehm 98 Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 maybe he got such a low score it went over to positive you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb Bloke Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Exactly what I mean. Catch is, for that to happen, he'd need to get a score as low as he got high, so that's probably not it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriptor Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Exactly what I mean. Catch is, for that to happen, he'd need to get a score as low as he got high, so that's probably not it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Like the money cheat? If you want too much money, it will go to negative.But I remenber that the score was at least +200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted June 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I don't get it. If 2 abductor PS's survive, wouldn't that have the same odds as if all PS's survive, given that the abductor has two PS's? You are correct. Sorry about that one. I was trying to make the point that there is another scenario involved which could possibly change the probabilities I list. Just for giggles, let me list the possibilities which could happen for the Abductor: PS1 PS2 Exploded? N N N Y Y N Y YAs you can see there are three different ways (the last three in my list) that at least one power source can remain intact. But there are only two ways that only one power source can remain intact (the middle two). It's how you phrase the question that matters. So, for at least one, the probability would be 22.5%. For only one, the probability would be 15%. See what I mean? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Kyth Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Kriptor; probably an error.. Unless you shot down a helluva lot of UFOs and won lots of tactical missions. That isn't that much of a funding increase though (even though it is near a million), as I recently got a (legal) boost of about 680,000 shiny things. ($_$) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb Bloke Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I getcha, Zombie. Each country can only give a maximum boost of 10% of it's current funding, I believe. So, you'll never get a funding increase of more then 10% of your previous total funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehm 98 Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 well, keep up a couple more good months and you'll be swimming in cash :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted June 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Each country can only give a maximum boost of 10% of it's current funding, I believe. So, you'll never get a funding increase of more then 10% of your previous total funding.Well, I think it's more like 20%. *Looks for this info in OSG and verifies it*. Yep, 20% it is. The nice thing is that you only need to exceed the alien's score by 1 point in a month to see the potential 20% increase. It's not like you have to gain 20% more points to get it, that would be a little more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehm 98 Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 oh, so as long as you have positive score the people increase their funding 1-20%?nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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