Alan Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 it all started with: The Doctor Posted: May 24 2002, 04:07 PM If someone has no idea of the story, visit this link below:click here to read about the story ----- then the following was covered:1)UFO:A is *NOT* X-Com2)That biomass stuff sounds like the Zerg creep off starcraft. the last few relevant posts were:Bastiaan Posted: Jun 4 2002, 05:36 PM Anyway back to the Story.Has the organisation who is fighting the aliens a name, or are they just a bunch of survivers who try fighting the aliens? martin Posted: Jun 6 2002, 09:07 AM Actually, we are currently calling the survivors "Council of Earth" (CoE), but this is a work-in-progress monicker only. What do you think about it? Does anybody have a better idea? Alan Posted: Jun 6 2002, 09:33 AM QUOTE "Council of Earth" (CoE) hmm... could work, although CoE also stands for Church of England...i would say EDF (earth defense force) but thats already taken...i guess it depends on what type of group it is, if its more of a resistance then names like 'The Terran Resistance' or 'Earth Resistance force' would sound right, but if its gonna be vaguely government related i guess stuff like Council, Department, and Office come into it. - alanTammy Posted: Jun 6 2002, 02:39 PM Hi Martin! It's good to have you here. I think Alan makes a good point. The name should fit the group's structure. How organized is this resistance? If they are very structured, "Council" will be fine, but if it's more of a grass-roots "resistance" group, then maybe you should think about changing the name. "Council" does seem to imply a government-type organization. If that's not the desired implication, then maybe a more military-sounding name would be better. ------- right, now i dont want any spam in this topic. this means you Warlord, TJ, and Tammy. Anything that i think isn't relevant i'll delete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 Hehe. Sorry Alan, blame Warlord it was all his fault! Anyway no spam, understood... Alan, I'm sure I posted something relevant in the other topic. If you hadn't noticed you will realise that these forums were completely spam free until Warlord arrived...Anyway on topic. I still think the story is slightly farfetched. The entire world sort of chokes to death on these alien spores and then a small surviving faction of normal people come back and kill the aliens who managed to defeat the entire world but can't seem to deal with a small centralised rebellion...Still, it's a squad based strategy game which is all I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastiaan Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 What about X-DEF, the extraterrestrial defence unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 I guess that depends on how determined they are to stay away from the impression that it's an X-COM game. I like X-DEF, but it sounds an awful lot like X-COM. There's been a lot of discussion about the connection--or lack thereof--to X-COM. They have to be careful of the legalities, of course, which complicates matters. Kind of annoying, what with the legal owners of the rights to X-COM behaving as a dog in the manger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastiaan Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 But it would be nice to be on the edge of what you can do and what not, there are games with the word frontier in it or interceptor or apocalypse before they used it in an x-com game. And as we are x-com fans and so are the Altar guys, why not bring an ode to the x-com universe to implement the game by twitching the story in such way that it hasn't any copyright problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 Well, I kind of think that's what they are doing, but I'm sure that Martin will be better equipped to answer that if he has time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastiaan Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 That would be cool, but I have doubts that they are doing that, what do you think Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 I am not quite sure, what is the question... Yet, I'll try to answer. We don't want to use any variant of the story of any part of X-COM series for variety of reasons -- we don't want to be accused of derivativeness, and we don't want to be sued. We are not making an X-COM sequel, period. Whether you or me wish to do so, is beyond the point. Similar reasoning applies to terminology. X-DEF, while nice, we would be reluctant to use for reasons outlined above. By the same token, there will be no "UFOPaedia", etc. Back to Council of Earth -- this is an umbrella organisation trying to manage what is left of Earth. The organisation you are in charge of is technically subordinated to it; it is an elite (as much as possible under the circumstances) group of soldiers tasked with solving the most difficult military problems (and it is currently nameless). CoE are de iure your superiors, but basically they will always follow your "recommendations". CoE are the people who are making the research for you, scouting new soldiers for you, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 The question was what will the elite force be Martin.And you said everything was pretty much still a work in progress? It's best to put it to the group here But Council of Earth (although getting the point across nicely) looks very similar to the Church of England when abbrieviated. Identical actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastiaan Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 Ah, so you have the Council of Earth, and the combat units which the player leads are the military branch of this council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 I suggest that if we want our hand at making this game we try and think of good names for the combat force. We might get one accepted. How great would that be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastiaan Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 What about SAS, Special Anti-alien Service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 Actually thinking back to a fic I'm writing I had the surviving countries of Earth named The New World Order. And of course we had the Extraterrestrial Police but that was XPol and can't be used fo suable reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastiaan Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 The New World Order, hmmm, has a bit of a nazi sound in it, I don't really like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 Hmm it is a little Third Reichish I suppose... It was meant as the group formed by the remaining citizens of America, Britain and I believe some Germans and Norwegians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahga Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 ello me is sahga and im new here and ya might be seeing me around here often but no spam so here is my idea Last Hope cuz thats what they actually are. and it kind of has a nice ring to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 9, 2002 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 The X-COM Half Life mod, "Last Hope" is back from the dead after almost a year! Check it out at https://www.xcomhlmod.8m.com/ and give them your full support! sahga, your not the only one who's had that idea . anyway, personally i'd want to find a name with some meaning behind it. maybe some reference to mythology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 Hey, Alan...good idea! Maybe something with the word Phoenix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 Hey, Alan...good idea! Maybe something with the word Phoenix? hmm... i like it, rising from the ashes 'n all. praps something like 'Pheonix section'. something that indicates that it is part of the CoE and links with the whole rising from the ashes mythology stuff. good one Tammy but, what do the guys from Altar think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 If they like it, I hope they spell it right--it's phoenix, Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 I was wrong it was the new world alliance not order. That was an earlier idea from the brainstorming. Three more alliances flared up and died today. We now have the Russian stronghold which is not an alliance just a stronghold. Obviously... The Grecian Cartel, the European Conglomerate the Saudi-African alliance. There are some really dodgy ones around but I'm killing them off quickly. Even South America is almost alien controlled!Anyway back on topic... Like the Phoenix idea but it sounds too much like a vehicle because of Apocalypse... Not sure how it could be twisted to fit an organisation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 I hadn't thought about the vehicle. Still, the word's pretty widely used, so I don't think it automatically will make people think of hovercars. I don't even like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 If they like it, I hope they spell it right--it's phoenix, Alan. Like the Phoenix idea but it sounds too much like a vehicle because of Apocalypse... Not sure how it could be twisted to fit an organisation... point about it sounding like the apoc thing is taken. however, it doesn't need to be twisted to fit, in fact, its quite apt. Phoenix: Mythology. A bird in Egyptian mythology that lived in the desert for 500 years and then consumed itself by fire, later to rise renewed from its ashes. (courtesy of dictionary.com) the whole rising from the ashes thing, humanity on the brink of extinction, and fighting back to destory the alien oppressors, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 See Alan? I was on-topic and even had a good idea. Aren't you proud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 I agree that it is very fitting but I just think it's a little intellectual for the kind of people who would play the game. (Just look around the forums! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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