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#1 Pete

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:43 PM

I thought I'd start a thread to show good and bad things that have happened in game.

I've been playing on Classic difficulty recently and getting very annoyed with it - it's all my fault as I didn't research armour quick enough and bypassed Laser weapons altogether (so since I was hell-bent on plasma weapons I died a lot until I had them).

I quickly resigned this playthrough to being an experiment as there seem to be some missions you simply cannot complete early in the game - I think it's the dev's way of trying to tell me I should know when to bravely run away Posted Image

Anyhow, here's a fun request that, when I completed it, basically allowed for massive advances in base facilities, barracks upgrades and some weapons and armour I sorely needed:

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And on the flipside, I had the most hideous mission earlier in the game that I had to re-load about 20 times just to beat as all my guys had light armour and basic weapons against this lot. Look at the compliment of aliens in this UFO - it's a tad ridiculous as it's quite a small UFO (plus I suspect Mutons would eat the other aliens... they look like they would Posted Image):

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Does anyone else have any amusing/horrendous screens to share?

I did have another one recently in the same game where a coutry wanted just 3 alloy cannons for another 1400 credits, so I was happy to oblige on that one too Posted Image

I'm also purposely not doing the alien base just yet, but have already triggered whatever sets off the harder Mutons, Floaters and Sectopods (must be research advances). On the bright side, no Sectoid Commanders yet because I've not done that mission, so that's one less enemy to contend with.

I also have a full squad of ridiculously high ranking guys now all in Titan armour, so I actually fancy my chances on the later and last missions of the game.

Oh, and before I forget, I only foudn out the other day that the Blaster Launcher is in this game too - I raced through the Normal playthrough so fast I missed a lot of research (plus I just couldn't do the UFO that that tech stems from as I couldn't shoot it down the first time through).
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostPete, on 28 October 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

I quickly resigned this playthrough to being an experiment as there seem to be some missions you simply cannot complete early in the game - I think it's the dev's way of trying to tell me I should know when to bravely run away

Nah, you just spread your ass, and shouted "RAPE ME HARD GAME" ;)
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:53 PM

Satellites. Get those satellites out as fast and as far away from your main base as you can. That's perhaps the best way to deal with the onslaught of no-win choices the game throws at you early in the game..

I think I might have mentioned this elsewhere, but twice now in different playthroughs I got my best and longest lived team wiped out in the exact same way. Just off the Skyranger, the very last guy to move moves just a tad too far to enter a dash and use up his second move. This in turn wakes up several mobs of Mutons. And both times, they leave about 3 ~ 4 standing. Half of them with soiled pants and no way to get back to the safety of the Skyranger before the berserkers come in and finished them all off.

The second time though I was blessed to have two of my better assault troopers recovering in med-bay. So they were able to coach a bunch of rookies that are in turn now coaching the new batch of gifted psi troopers that I've started to screen (since none of them are gifted, sadly).

Oh, and I underestimated skeleton armour (that is to say, I never got to build any in the last 3 games). In some instances, that grappling hook can move you further than you can walk in one move bar. It's nice that they've made the armour more diverse and they're all quite effective (depending on the scenario).

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:08 AM

Back on my first play though (still haven't gotten around to my second yet, in the middle of an Apoc play though), I skipped the Carapace and went straight from the Skeleton and indeed found the grappling hook quite useful. Basically whenever there was higher ground and ledges, I would always check to see if it was more Action Point economical to grapple or to walk. By the way, you can grapple to same height and lower height ledges, not just to ledges above you. Which is useful if say, you want to grapple across a gap.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:44 AM

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I skipped the Carapace and went straight from the Skeleton
I wouldn't of skipped Carapace if I were you.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:04 PM

Three months into a classic ironman game, and I'm getting smacked. Lost six countries, and haven't managed a live capture yet; last mission I finally managed to stun a thin man - only for two mutons to show up at the end of the mission - when resources and available cover was pretty depleted - and wipe the floor with the whole squad. (The sacrificial rookie managed to nail one of them, but the other one retaliated and finished the job.)

I now have five soldiers total. But I'm not beat yet, you alien bastards! :)

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

My Memorial Wall of my current Classic Ironman:
3 Colonels
2 Captains
2 Sergeants
2 Corporals
3 Squaddies
0 Rookies (some squaddies were promoted after death)

I lost 2 Colonels on the same mission and almost lost a 3rd but managed to kill the remaining aliens before it bled to death. Right now I got 8 Colonels, just promoted one on the last mission.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:55 PM

You can have 8 colonels and 0 of them are gifted - now they turn into a rubbish soldier :P
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:18 PM

View Postsilencer_pl, on 29 October 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

You can have 8 colonels and 0 of them are gifted - now they turn into a rubbish soldier Posted Image

Just finished testing - 3 are gifted and 1 is a Support, which seems to be the best class to be the Volunteer.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:47 PM

As for satellites anywhere and everywhere... doesn't that lead to ufos detected with no available interceptors to handle them, which is also Bad™ ?

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:52 PM

I jump for joy if my assault is gifted. On my first playthrough my favorite assault was the first one that bear the gift and she had 99 Will at the end (she wasn't the Volunteer of course)
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:03 PM

View PostKnan, on 29 October 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

As for satellites anywhere and everywhere... doesn't that lead to ufos detected with no available interceptors to handle them, which is also Bad™ ?

It's best to cover continent by continent, as interceptors will cover all countries in that continent. Of course that's sort of dependant on where the panic levels are worse :)

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:22 PM

While we're on the subject of bad times... Managed to nail a terror site by the skin of my teeth with a sniper sergeant and a bunch of rookies; all the survivors are ranting in straitjackets in med bay. Then abduction missions show up, one day before the new crop of rookies arrives and obviously before any of the veterans are done hallucinating and drooling. Panic and hilarity ensues, since I have absolutely no soldiers available.

That was the last month of the XCOM project. (Nice losing movie, btw.)

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:42 PM

View PostKnan, on 29 October 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

As for satellites anywhere and everywhere... doesn't that lead to ufos detected with no available interceptors to handle them, which is also Badâ„¢ ?

UFOs, thankfully do not show up as often as the abduction missions early on, which are the missions that take the most toll on you at first. So the less varied abduction missions you get, the more control you will have over the panic levels.

Of course, in addition to covering the continents with satellites, you should start adding at the very least one interceptor to each continent, and especially upgrade their weapons.

It's a costly and protracted exercise, but oh so worth it.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 01:37 AM

View PostKnan, on 29 October 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

That was the last month of the XCOM project. (Nice losing movie, btw.)

The movie kinda made me wonder if the aliens weren't controlling the bald Council dude the whole time...
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:08 AM

What frustrate me about interceptors on each continent was that a UFO was flying over the USA and kept coming close to Mexico, but the game simply refuses to let my Mexican pilot fly over the border.

In the original of course it plays fair and gives you a chance to launch multiple interceptew to get the job done.

Bad times again, but my score at the end of the month was alright.

7 finding nations lost, but it does make cheering up the rest easier :)
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 04:59 PM

Fresh bad time:

I just finished the Assault on the Alien Base on Classic Ironman. It was in July and I was doing fine then suddenly a wild muton appeared out of thin air among my squad. Ofcourse it was a narrow hallway with most of my troops around each other and he used his magical yet insect based surprise to throw a grenade. It was Super Effective, taking out 3 of my men!
Later in the alien base the game managed to bug me even more and spawn a cyberdisc along with 2 drones in the middle of my squad yet again out of thin air. Luckily since it was a "proper spawn" this time, I didn't get shot and dealt with it quickly and easily. In the end I lost 1 more guy since both of my supports were dead beacuse of that muton and no one could heal Posted Image

Curse you bloody bugs!
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 09:47 PM

Had a Muton hiding behind destroyed ufo walls taking reaction shots at my team. Almost impossible to spot, as if the walls still were there.

I got my revenge, but then the XCOM project was shut down. :)

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:40 AM

I got the same mission Pete has shown in the OP... Started all kinds of projects, bought mostly everything available and still have 1500 waiting for more power. Times are good, aliens disagree.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:16 AM

Those wacky teleporting mobs  - I don't know how many times a mob of heavy Floaters or Muton Elites suddenly materialise amongst my team and really mess them up. Had a rather funny one happen with a sectopod suddenly spawning on the very corner of the roof of the bridge of a supply ship. Was crawling around it when, pop, there's a sectopod on the roof. Since it didn't move much, it was double energy beams to the face for a few frantic turns.

I'm not too fond of the way the alien encounters are set up, there's almost no such thing as being able to stealthily sneak up on enemies while they are unaware, as they'll instantly strike a pose and then run for cover, followed by a much exciting repartee of gun shootage. Only on rare occasion will you see them at a strange angle or at the very edge of your vision without triggering them.

Personally, I think the aliens are cottoning onto you so easily because your soldiers are making a lot of noise as they advance shouting out motivational slogans like "On Overwatch!", "Eye-Firmative!" "Eyes Peeled Commander!" and other witticisms. Posted Image It's like how you get the orange wavy thingy that indicates the aliens are chattering away nearby.

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