Veki Posted August 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Stupid fish. https://i.imgur.com/USur1l.pngBut here is some good news! Anti-Matter is ours. Now we need fish language ASAP.https://i.imgur.com/QWLAel.pngSurely we can be friends?https://i.imgur.com/2YYsZl.pngFUCK! https://i.imgur.com/WMFcNl.pngFish-bird alliance. Not good. Also, fish have Anti-Matter.https://i.imgur.com/i7DeKl.pngJust clearing swarm from a planet in our cluster. And it's a nice planet. https://i.imgur.com/nwSvhl.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/tSR8Ml.pngMuch needed research.https://i.imgur.com/0Lg6el.pngAnd first result from said research.https://i.imgur.com/Qtilxl.pngMore research.https://i.imgur.com/nXl6nl.pngAnother queen.https://i.imgur.com/gCpyvl.pngAnd more research.https://i.imgur.com/9xiHvl.pngWell, this is a very nice planet. Look at all the infrastructure. Also note a yellow fleet in the middle of the screen.https://i.imgur.com/zcX5Hl.pngAnd even more research.https://i.imgur.com/9Iwnil.pngUgh, 2nd Zuul. This does not look good.https://i.imgur.com/ISronl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer_pl Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Mmmm... far casters - now you will not only buzz around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Voyager Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Absolutely, farcasters all the way. Good call with the diplomacy, too (obvious bias towards Liir, sorry)! Now your gates will stay in place. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer_pl Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 And I found the quote from the kerberos forums  NOBODY expects the Hiver Inquisition! Our chief weapon is far casting... far casting and neutronium rounds... neutronium rounds and far casting.... Our two weapons are neutronium rounds and far casting...and thick armour.... Our *three* weapons are neutronium rounds, far casting, and thick armour...and an almost impenetrable gate system... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as neutronium rounds, far casting.... I'll come in again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Let's see how good these Zuul are. They have HCL.https://i.imgur.com/TgMCll.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/paNrWl.pngBut they are no match for us (for now).https://i.imgur.com/Fw7XUl.pngThey invite us to form NAP, but choose to engage in combat nonetheless.https://i.imgur.com/iQd2ql.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/oJt4jl.pngUseless birds. So many ships and look at that pathetic damage to queen. Of course if I were instead of queen I'd get 10x damage. https://i.imgur.com/DqAFgl.pngWe have colonized 2 planets.https://i.imgur.com/37lWcl.pngAnd what do we have here? Alien fleet detected?https://i.imgur.com/8xoCel.pngSwarm again. https://i.imgur.com/Kihiil.pngRanking doesn't look good. But BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!https://i.imgur.com/18TzWl.pngDN already!?https://i.imgur.com/PipKVl.pngBut it's no problem for us.https://i.imgur.com/EuDm2l.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/MWaCml.jpgStill quite weak in firepower and armor.https://i.imgur.com/MdFfQl.pngWe need more firepower.https://i.imgur.com/TnEOHl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Voyager Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 We're last at income? Our hive needs more traders, colonies, MONEY! The rest will follow on its own. Â I wouldn't be too disappointed by the coming of mere Swarm. Anything else can really mess up a game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 We have ~25 colonies and I'm building freighters as much as I can. I try to have 1 mil in treasury as that gives us +1 morale thus negating -1 morale from population limit.  One DN is no problem for us.https://i.imgur.com/MIdEFl.pngSay hello to my little friend!https://i.imgur.com/nusW9l.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/RAIj2l.pngYou may notice that our DN did 0 damage. That's because I forgot to take SS during combat (only 1 at start) so I replayed this battle. In the 2nd and 3rd and 4th replay DN just wouldn't spawn. Don't know why it spawned on 1st try.https://i.imgur.com/42ihgl.pngWell, looks like we'll have to behave and be good for now.https://i.imgur.com/bPucql.png6 ships? Well, that shouldn't be a problem for us. We have a DN. https://i.imgur.com/vO7enl.png6 DNs!? https://i.imgur.com/L7rtDl.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/vjm3Ql.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/wugcXl.jpgPeacekeeper to the rescue!https://i.imgur.com/RkPNLl.pngAnd more firepower!https://i.imgur.com/vThKHl.pngWe ask our feathered friend for some research help.https://i.imgur.com/GWl7nl.pngArmada CnC? That's not good.https://i.imgur.com/AtgVIl.pngNext turn we ask for more research help.https://i.imgur.com/Wa60sl.pngAgain Peacekeeper help us. https://i.imgur.com/HHLWrl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer_pl Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 They have size but their firepower so puny and no armour. I wish yet to see a very powerful Zuul AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 57 ships!?https://i.imgur.com/SVEwKl.pngAnd we manage to get more research help. https://i.imgur.com/QQyBBl.pngI underestimated this battle and lost 3 CR and DN was seriously damaged. One CR had Node cannon. https://i.imgur.com/8oMqhl.pngAnother queen. We got good money.https://i.imgur.com/OZvOLl.pngLucky for us, it's just a lot of DE. https://i.imgur.com/s4W6cl.pngZuul CR managed to get to my ships before Peacekeeper destroyed them.https://i.imgur.com/KgRjjl.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/07Ejgl.pngPeacekeepr for the win!https://i.imgur.com/fpwoMl.pngThis Zuul ha more advanced weapons than purple Zuul.https://i.imgur.com/iolzUl.pngAnd we have Cutting beams! Next, Armada CnC.https://i.imgur.com/xAHSzl.png3rd Zuul. Looks like they're all around us. https://i.imgur.com/ulTLbl.pngDN + blazer. Not good.https://i.imgur.com/k22Yul.pngHeavy stormers, Fusion cannon and Fusion torpedo. Definitely not good.https://i.imgur.com/osBXFl.pngMore research. We have met Tarka, but I didn't see any ships nor colonies.https://i.imgur.com/FRzCml.pngWe see future targets. https://i.imgur.com/zUH6vl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer_pl Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Oh man, Am I the only fortunate to have fish all around me all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Depends on your definition of "fortunate". Â But really, Zuul are very weak. They are 8th, 7th and 6th in rankings while I'm 5th. I'll try to use that to my advantage and try to eliminate at least 1 Zuul, most likely purple Zuul. I just hope it doesn't surrender to other Zuul as that would really complicate things and make my expansion really hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer_pl Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I meant fortunate as in the bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Let's be friends, shall we?https://i.imgur.com/SNHEcl.pngManaged to get more research help from birds and fish. https://i.imgur.com/ZynoIl.pngWe colonized a very nice planet (HZ of 15) and we have 2 fleets incoming.https://i.imgur.com/bM9e9l.png2 battles and 2 victories.https://i.imgur.com/6P23Al.pngMore research.https://i.imgur.com/siXekl.pngPeacekeeper has left the galaxy!https://i.imgur.com/nI4etl.pngSome cleanup battles. Notice that VN has been destroyed on Morrigi planet. I'm parking a gate and a colonizer there in wait of Berserker. Also note another VN has been destroyed on uninhabited planet. A turn later I colonized it. I wonder if VN Berserker will visit it. https://i.imgur.com/XUEPJl.pngWe really want to make love with space sirens.https://i.imgur.com/dNuAzl.pngMore cleanup battles. I do have somewhat of a problem with Node cannon. It kills my CR in 1 shot and AI waits for me to come to him so he can shoot me. I'm using my DN to draw its fire while my CR flank it.https://i.imgur.com/pAL2Ol.pngA small ship that will help us a great deal.https://i.imgur.com/kz4Rbl.pngGuess what I'm sending to Zuul worlds. https://i.imgur.com/AbcC0l.png2 small battles.https://i.imgur.com/r0AMJl.pngAnd 4 reconnaissance missions.https://i.imgur.com/HQyz1l.jpgI doubt yellow Zuul is sending 26 DE.https://i.imgur.com/Qrctjl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorondor Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 https://www.somervilleartscouncil.org/sacfiles/wasp.jpg :: Deploy the scouting drones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Where did you find that ancient thing? We have far more sophisticated scouts these days, like the one pictured below. Â https://i.imgur.com/DJDOY.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Voyager Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Thor's version is just heavily armed and flying version. Â P.S.: PE is the only GM that comes back. Whenever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Yep, Peacekeeper will be back. Here's another update. Things are getting interesting.  Yeah, only 3 DE. https://i.imgur.com/ZeERIl.pngBut we have DNs and Cutting beams. https://i.imgur.com/NJ8IVl.pngRemember that Morrigi colony that destroyed VN a couple of turns ago? I sent a colonizer to that colony (you can see it leaving the colony with STL engines, it's just 1 turn away from colony) in hope Berserker would destroy it. And since we have a gate at the colony and we all know auto-resolve is crap at calculating battles, we're going to watch it (all 10 minutes). https://i.imgur.com/y6PXUl.pngA funny thing happened. Berserker collided with an asteroid and pushed it towards the planet. I expected that it would hit it and cause massive damage, but as you can see nothing happened.https://i.imgur.com/hrQ4hl.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/4T3n9l.pngThis report deserves to be seen in all its glory! I did reload a couple of times after this battle and used auto resolve to see how different this battle would be. Morrigi lost 2-4 CR and Berserker was destroyed.https://i.imgur.com/XszQ2l.pngFinally this research tree is over. Now we'll go for Impactors. We'll need them to counter Zuul Node Cannon (and they look awesome when they hit enemy ship).https://i.imgur.com/BkAp1l.pngNow we can finally increase population without overharvest.https://i.imgur.com/JLJWbl.png4 CR are not a problem.https://i.imgur.com/YPSDVl.pngWe grab the former Morrigi planet. Courtesy of VN Berserker. And we're researching towards Impactors.https://i.imgur.com/ybL7Gl.pngPurple Zuul is trying to intercept our scouts. I stopped our scouts when they were 2 light years from Zuul colonies to have a good view of their defenses.https://i.imgur.com/mOt1ml.pngImpactors are within our reach. And we're no longer last in income. https://i.imgur.com/erRgbl.pngWe cleared Alien derelict and killed a Queen. What is important is that we have green Zuul fleet of 8 DN coming to world where we have a gate. Since it's only a gate, I'm not going to fight that fleet. In the background you can see yellow Zuul fleet of 15 ships coming to our colony.https://i.imgur.com/JhUsml.pngBehold Zuul DNs.https://i.imgur.com/o4uZDl.pngGate is destroyed, but I saved the scout so I can leave it near the planet. Note Lancers and X-Ray lasers.https://i.imgur.com/L28vFl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Voyager Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Veki, the CH difference between you and Liir is far too high for Xenopopulation. Seriously, it would take AGES to populate the rest of the civilians. In your place I'd go for Tarka OR, perhaps even better in your position as no race is VERY close, I'd terraform your already fully (to the non-overpopulation half limit) populated worlds to fit Liir CH - IF it won't eat into your own numbers - and let Liir multiply in an environment they are most adapted to. You can terraform the worlds back to your own ideal CH later if you want, though it would have no effect on the game after the worlds are full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Yes, I can do that. Also I'm hoping to get Environmental tailoring so I can research Accommodate Liir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Yellow Zuul fleet is dealt with.https://i.imgur.com/j3rL5l.pngImpactors are ours! We now have heavy hitter weapons, but we lack armor. Since our enemies have decent weapons, our ships look like they are made of paper. And since we're fighting Zuul, we need info about their node lines.https://i.imgur.com/Z71Tnl.pngA brave move by Liir. That Zuul planet is heavily defended (they have 8 or more DNs there).https://i.imgur.com/ZHtlZl.pngAnother cleanup battle. I'll stop posting big reports about these small and insignificant battles.https://i.imgur.com/Bst1Rl.pngSoon we'll be able to predict Zuul movement and that will help us tremendously.https://i.imgur.com/Aeq1rl.pngA hard battle, but Impactors saved the day! And we have our first salvaged tech! https://i.imgur.com/kmC2Gl.pngWe researched better engines and superior armor.https://i.imgur.com/tGdSZl.pngI have not met humans yet nor I've seen any of their ships nor I have their Xenotech for research, but they were asking for Ceasefire for 2-3 turns in a row. Probably some bug.https://i.imgur.com/MraI2l.png1st Zuul colony destroyed by us. And another salvaged tech. https://i.imgur.com/1iFeJl.pngI hope we'll salvage Adamantite Alloys. And we can research X-Ray laser. I hope research tree it doesn't stop on them.https://i.imgur.com/SzygJl.pngI'm impressed with Impactors. They are somewhat of a cheat considering their range and knockback. 3rd salvaged tech. https://i.imgur.com/f6PkBl.pngLots of research is completed. I was hoping Assault command section for CR would have 2 heavy beams, but it just has 1 torpedo. That sucks. https://i.imgur.com/1QUCLl.png2nd Zuul colony has fallen. https://i.imgur.com/JZOqBl.pngYou may wonder why I'm going for Drone research tree. https://i.imgur.com/3tR5rl.pngColony saved. 0 casualties. New salvaged tech. https://i.imgur.com/9zvIkl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Voyager Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 You may wonder why I'm going for Drone research tree.  I am. Do tell! Have fun with impactors! BTW, if you recall the 1.7.2 version was even more powerful, so they nerfed them slightly in 1.8.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer_pl Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Well as Hiver your chance for Adamntine Alloys is the best, second is Tarka then Humans I believe. Also you might want to check Thumpers. They are very strong despite the low diagram values. Quite accurate, quite fast firing and quite deadly. Any DN ship will just fly backwards and will not be able to shoot back at you - except Liir probably because they have to cheat on everything. Also I am glad they changed the sections in SotS2 - for example the War section in Sots1 is quite useless as far as I can see. Why on earth you want HCL to fire broadside instead of forward :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I am. Do tell!Hint : take a look where does that tech tree lead. Â BTW, if you recall the 1.7.2 version was even more powerful, so they nerfed them slightly in 1.8.0.I don't recall as I wasn't playing the game at that time. Â Tarka and Humans have 40% for Adamantite Alloys. Hope one of them has it.Thumpers look nice and they will supplement Impactors nicely.True, War section is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Voyager Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Any DN ship will just fly backwards and will not be able to shoot back at you - except Liir probably because they have to cheat on everything. These fish have really gotten under your skin!  Also I am glad they changed the sections in SotS2 - for example the War section in Sots1 is quite useless as far as I can see. Why on earth you want HCL to fire broadside instead of forward :/ I've experimented a bit with broadsides and there is just no way to match the firepower of forward facing sections. No way. So yes, it is useless. Hint : take a look where does that tech tree lead.  Oh yeah, there is another link through drones! Funny, I seem to always get it through Expert Systems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veki Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I don't have Expert Systems nor Holographic Tactics and I didn't get it through Combat Algorithms.So that way is the only way I can get it (70% looks big, but Expert System is 75% and I didn't get that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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