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#201 Zombie

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 02:37 AM

Today I came in special to work on putting a second coat/first and only coat on our two red doors. The second coat was on the door next to the small garage door and the "first and only" coat was to the other door with the painted threshold and paint+primer quickie coverup coat underneath the kick plate. It was really foggy out and the humidity was nearing 90% so it was going to be a challenge to get anything to dry. Thinned the paint out a tad with a splash of paint thinner and also added a little oil paint conditioner to lessen the chances of brush/roller marks. Stirred that all in and started on the door by the small garage door. First I rolled on a light coat up and down, then added a second light coat side to side and finally went over the whole door again up and down with an ever-so-slightly wet roller. Did the same thing to the other door except I need to brush the very bottom of the door as it was too close to the ground. I did go down as far as I could with the roller... but in the end it probably will not make too much difference as the lower section will have the kick plate over it.Posted Image

Speaking of kick plates, I went over the second door's kick plate with the 4 grades of sand paper again as I wasn't really happy with how scratchy the "final" result was. This time I might have over done it a little as it's pretty reflective. Now I'm wondering if I should resand the other kick plate to match. Hmmm. Maybe if I have time. Still have to sand the back side of the second kick plate as it has some old paint caked on it.

All in all, the doors looked fantastic. Unfortunately they were taking forever and a day to dry so I set up a fan next to each one blowing on high for a couple hours while I was doing other things. That helped, but the paint was still a little tacky when I was getting ready to leave. Ended up closing the doors as softly as I could and locked them without putting any pressure to hopefully prevent the paint from sticking overnight. Fingers crossed everything is dry tomorrow! Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:55 AM

So here's the door which already had one coat of paint on it:

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And this is the other door:

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I assure you, both doors are the same glossy red, it was just very difficult to get a good pic of them today because of the cloudiness and rain. Still have to take the tape off the locks and handles. then it'll be on to installing those kick plates. :)

I worked on installing the screens for the two windows farther down the driveway today. Wasn't difficult but the screens can only be installed from the inside so I had to move some stuff around to gain access. The inside of the windows was filthy, so I cleaned them. The window on the right had some rust stains on it (you can make this out a couple posts back where the windows are in the sun). I used some of that old polishing compound with a brush but that didn't do much so I switched to a 3M scouring pad which did the trick. It was finished off with another cleaning on the inside and then I scraped any paint off the outside of the windows.

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Any discoloration on the lower half of the windows is from the screen, and any thing on the top is from the outside being dirty (gonna leave those dirty for now till after I get done painting the wall). Looking good! Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

#203 Space Voyager

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 07:34 AM

View PostZombie, on 22 October 2019 - 01:55 AM, said:

I assure you, both doors are the same glossy red, it was just very difficult to get a good pic of them today because of the cloudiness and rain. Still have to take the tape off the locks and handles. then it'll be on to installing those kick plates. Posted Image

Clear use of Photoshop. Posted Image

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View PostZombie, on 22 October 2019 - 01:55 AM, said:

Looking good! Posted Image

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That it is! Perfect, as usual!

#204 Thorondor

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:30 AM

Both doors got the same glossy red, he says...

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If I didn't know any better, Zombie-san, I might have said you're spending too much time out under the sun and ought to be more careful with your noggin. :P

But when sunlight does fully part the clouds and those kickplates you've been caressing to a sheen are put back in place, people will need to squint to endure getting near those doors. :D

So feel free to toot your own horn, as you're definitely putting in the work and therefore deserve to be basking in the limelight!

#205 Zombie

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 01:08 AM

When I was at the paint store last week getting the two gallons of the wall color I decided to go through their stacks of mistint paint to see if there was anything I could use. Hey, what's this? A gallon of red mistinted exterior satin latex paint? Heck yes, I'll take that! For $3 you can't go wrong! Now you're probably wondering what I could use that for... well, remember those boards I use in the greenhouse and the pink paint base coat fiasco? Bingo.

The weather here has been quite chilly and humid/raining almost everyday for the last month it seems. The last week or so was really cold, windy and raining and the usual tough-as-nails Zombie had to switch to long pants. So I couldn't get anything done outside. Hoping I can get a semi-decent day where I can cut in along the remainder of the wall and get that to dry because then all I need is another decent day where I can roll out the wall and complete that project. Oh well, fingers crossed.

Because of the chilly weather I decided to start working on putting some paint on the back side of those boards for the greenhouse. It wasn't too bad in the greenhouse so I did a little caulking yesterday. They didn't quite dry overnight because it actually snowed a little bit but that shouldn't matter as I'll be going over the latex caulk with a latex paint. I never painted the edges of those boards so I needed to somehow do that too. Ended up elevating the boards with some bricks so I could paint the edges and the back side at the same time.

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The color of this mistint paint wasn't an exact match to the red of the tabletop/park bench - it's more of an orange-red instead of brown-red. Suppose I could have did a little mixology and poured some of my brown trim paint in to darken it up, but hey, who cares, it's close enough (heck of a better match than that pinkish paint). I still saw cracks peeking through after painting the boards so they will require another coat, hopefully I can do that tomorrow assuming it dries overnight. ;)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

#206 Thorondor

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 10:18 AM

Feel not under the weather, Zombie will be on the job no matter! :)

Snowing already? I'm unfamiliar with the weather patterns over there, of course, but it strikes me as a little early for that given Autumn has barely begun.

As for the boards for the greenhouse they're the fortunate ones to get your attentions instead as a result. I do agree with your assessment that the new paint lends them a sort of orangey tint, which, nonetheless, leaves them no worse off in my opinion.

What you probably need to keep an eye on once again at this stage are the sassy ladies on site - should they wander about with a can of pink spray paint in the vicinity as before... :P

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 03:19 AM

View PostThorondor, on 30 October 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:

Snowing already? I'm unfamiliar with the weather patterns over there, of course, but it strikes me as a little early for that given Autumn has barely begun.

Well, we've had snow in September before but not recently.  It usually holds off till the middle of November or so due to Lake Michigan normalizing the temperatures. I knew since the beginning of October that we would be getting an early start to winter as the temps were uncharacteristically chilly and rainy. (Remember last year around this time I was still painting outside and wearing shorts?) In fact it snowed yesterday again, this time a hefty 5 inches (or 12+cm), but it's melting steadily.

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As for the boards for the greenhouse they're the fortunate ones to get your attentions instead as a result. I do agree with your assessment that the new paint lends them a sort of orangey tint, which, nonetheless, leaves them no worse off in my opinion.

I don't care about the latex color as I'll be going over the boards with that red polyurethane enamel anyway, it's just nice to have a red color underneath as that means I don't have to worry about other colors poking through. Posted Image

Speaking of worse, I had a minor disaster with those boards. Because of the cold temps, the paint didn't completely dry on the boards on the middle tables. And then because of the humidity in the greenhouse (due to the paint trying to dry) the water vapor condensed on the cold plastic greenhouse cover overnight and dripped down on the boards. The next morning I was greeted to a mess. I tried gently dabbing off the standing water with a paper towel but that took paint off. Posted Image I ended up leaving the drips and paint intact, and carefully moved the boards inside the small garage and stuck a fan on it during the day. Today it seemed dry so I hauled them back to the greenhouse but the damage had been done.

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The boards that got messed up were just the 4 boards on the middle tables in the greenhouse - the 4 boards along the edge were fine. It's not the end of the world as everything still needs another coat of latex to fill in the cracks. Here's a rather crappy pic of the cracks on a board along the side:

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Not sure what I'm going to do from this point on. There are a few options to consider.
  • Leave the boards in the greenhouse and paint them when I get a nice sunny day so it's warm until sunset.
  • Paint the boards in the greenhouse but bring them into the small garage to dry (so far it hasn't got below 4C in there).
  • Paint the boards in the back garage (about 10C in there, but I'd probably have to move a van out).
  • Bring the boards in the basement and paint them there (nice and toasty down there but they would probably be in the way for a day).
I'm going to play it by ear for now and see what option is the least amount of work. The ideal choice would be to just leave them be in the greenhouse and paint them when I get a nice day. But if/when I want to put on the final polyurethane coat I'll need to bring them indoors anyway. No rush on anything though.Posted Image

View PostThorondor, on 30 October 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:

What you probably need to keep an eye on once again at this stage are the sassy ladies on site - should they wander about with a can of pink spray paint in the vicinity as before... Posted Image

I did worry about that the other day as one of the ladies was out there spray painting some containers. Luckily I gave her plenty of cardboard to cover up the tables to prevent overspray (not pink this time but silver, gold and glossy brown).

Monday it might be nice (or nicer) out so there's a possibility I could paint the walls outside to finally get that done. Tuesday I got invited over to the paint store for a pro day (free lunch, representatives from different paint supply manufacturers on hand to answer questions, sale prices on paint/supplies, raffles, etc). Was invited last year too but didn't go as I was busy. Why I'm invited to a pro event is beyond me but I guess I'm sorta a pro at this point and know the staff at the store what with coming in there every month it seems. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

#208 Thorondor

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 01:08 PM

His daubs are not just for show, Zombie really lays it smooth as a pro! Posted Image

So, mishaps happen on occasion but that kind of condensation isn't exactly easy to predict. And even with the snow you're rightly going with the flow.

Should be interesting to see what exactly those paint experts go on about in those special sessions. Hopefully something more than plain ol' marketing and self-promotion... Posted Image

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Posted 07 November 2019 - 04:41 AM

Hmmm, snow every other day and cold temps isn't exactly a recipe for painting anymore it seems (at least outdoors). Those boards did end up drying properly though so there's always the option of painting them again either in the garage or somewhere else (the greenhouse is still an option too as long as the temps stay above freezing at night when the condensation might occur). ;)

I managed to clean the two remaining windows and put the newly painted screens in on Monday. I had a bit of an issue though. Each screen is held in place by a small machine screw on either side. The last time I painted the screens I lost one of those screws somewhere and substituted a coarse thread machine screw instead. For the life of me though I couldn't figure out which of the holes the coarse threaded screw belonged to. I ended up taking off all the screens again trying to match them up with still no luck.Posted Image

Finally I decided to search through my drawers of hardware for a replacement. (Just to note, whenever I need to throw something away, I always try to take any hardware off of it first, then sort it out and put it in an appropriate drawer for possible use later). By golly, I found a machine screw which fit! It was a brass screw though, so it isn't going to match perfectly but you are only going to see that from the inside anyway. So a win for team Zombie!Posted Image

I unfortunately didn't make it to that pro event at the paint store. Had a lot going on that day with it being an election day and a load of supplies arriving from a wholesaler. No worries though, I'll probably be invited again next year. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

#210 Thorondor

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Posted 07 November 2019 - 10:10 AM

The issue you ran into with the small machine screw is a common enough occurrence, Zombie.

We somehow seemingly always run across some makeshift past remedial solution, of our own or of others' devising, in the process of doing something else and which, incidentally, makes things hinge on those adjustments. :P

Furthermore, I recognise another of your good practices as something a grandfather of mine frequently advised: save whatever may seem useless today and it will prove its usefulness tomorrow!

As for the event at the paint store, I guess your proficiency in these affairs will only grow, so you'll be even more of a pro by the time you do go. ;)

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Posted 08 November 2019 - 02:43 AM

View PostThorondor, on 07 November 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

Furthermore, I recognise another of your good practices as something a grandfather of mine frequently advised: save whatever may seem useless today and it will prove its usefulness tomorrow!

In terms of saving "useless" items, I don't quite go that far. If it's something I know I will not ever use then it'll go into the garbage. The hardware I save go through a sort of vetting process to exclude bulking up on truly useless items. The things I save have to fall into a category
  • Common frequently used hardware. If it's in good shape, it'll go into a box.
  • Brass hardware of any type. It's difficult to find in hardware stores and even if you do it'll probably be pretty expensive.
  • Stainless steel hardware. Kinda the same reason as the brass except I use this a lot more often.
  • Other hardware of a different metal like Aluminum. Handy to have these for a quickie repair.
  • Unique items where I have multiples of them. One different drawer handle is not worth saving, but if you have two or more you can make everything match.
  • Washers/lock washers. Can never have too many of these.
Things I do not save anymore is
  • Common screws that require a flat bladed screwdriver. I'd much rather repair or create something with phillips head screws because that way you only need one screwdriver to take them apart later. Exception to this is if they are of brass or stainless steel.
  • Common hardware that is rusting. If it's something I can get at the hardware store for cheaply then I'm not going to bother keeping it.
  • Square nuts/bolts. See the first point above. Exception is if I have a bolt/nut to go along with it.
  • Bent or broken hardware. If it's broken, it's going in the trash. Bent items might be kept only if I can easily bend them back into shape.
I guess that's the short list. There are other items I'll save from time to time, it just depends if I know I'll be able to use them.Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

#212 Thorondor

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Posted 08 November 2019 - 06:51 PM

A sensible selection process you've got going there, Zombie.

Simply hoarding everything and clogging your entire house is obviously not going to yield useful results - beyond having your neighbours think you've lost it and thusly not annoying you with requests of tool lending anymore that is. Posted Image

In truth we're pretty much spoiled rotten this day and age, when you can simply waltz down to a hardware store and get pretty much everything you could possibly need for quite cheap.

For context: my late grandfather was born in 1911 in the rural far north of the country and, as he often recalled, he had to walk several miles barefoot to school daily, snow or no snow. Shoes were terribly expensive and he had 11 siblings. Also, back then, if you needed something done (for domestic improvement or agricultural development) you either made it yourself from what you had or resorted to someone who could make it basically from scratch, like an actual blacksmith, for a price.

It's just crazy how good and abundant things are today. Still no excuse to be wasteful and not heed such wise advice as, essentially, always make the best from what you happen to have around. Posted Image




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