I'm exhausted, and really want to be asleep right now but I'll leave a parting gift for the last few posters because I think it needs to be done
lollersis, on 4th June 2011, 11:05am, said:
Oh yes, this is indeed a re-imagining. Aftermath & Extraterrestrials is also re-imaginings of X-COM. A re-imagining doesnīt have to look or feel like the original game itīs based on. A re-imagining is simply a game loaning the concepts of the other game.
No, no, no... That does NOT make it a re-imagining. By tat rule, ANY FPS is a re-imagining af ANY OTHER FPS which is just not true. Is an RTS a re-imagining of another RTS just because it shares certain aspects of gameplay? No of course not, it's a different franchise by a different developer, in a different world with a different story. NOTHING is even similar except the fact that an RTS is pretty much an RTS and even then there are differences to take into account which is what makes us decide whether or not we'll buy a game. After all, if they were all the same we'd only need to play one right?
Anyway, let's not forget that XCOM is NOT loaning a single concept from the original games, so how can it be a re=imagining? Even by your own rules there is no logic in this argument...
lollersis, on 4th June 2011, 11:05am, said:
The new X-COM has:
*An alien threath
*Reseaching of new equipment
*A secret organisation whos goal is to fight extraterrestrial threaths
Name a FPS that doesn't include an alien threat. I bet for each one you come up with I can match it with another 2 that do... Aliens have been done to death in every genre of game there is, FPS are no exception. From what we've seen so far there is NO secret organisation, XCOM are just guys in suits who drive around shooting up bad guys. They use SMGs in this trailer for crying out loud, how much less subtle can you get? I guess they forgot to pack the tactical nukes when they filmed that scene... Soldier management? Really? That's one of the most incredibly vague terms I've ever heard. What does it mean? How is it implemented in XCOM? How was it implemented in X-Com? It's like saying Lemonade Tycoon and Civilisation both feature empire building... As for researching, yes that's a given but so what? You're taking the fact that this game allows research and making it into a fundamental link between the old franchise and this new title? I don't think so... I just finished playing Dead Space and that has research in it AND is a FPS with ALIENS in it... Hmm maybe XCOM is a re-imagining of that. They just couldn't get the rigths to the name...
Sunflash, on 4th June 2011, 3:35pm, said:
Honestly I think it's a good thing. It means it's going to have a much better chance of getting the attention of any "If it's not an FPS it sucks" gamer, and if they do well with the game, they can then excuse a few 'spinoff-in-name-only' silly tactical games.
Either way I am done listening to the fanbase myself, since the golden rule of anything is "Don't knock it till you've tried it." And unless 90% of the fanbase are secretly alpha testers, then the entire fanbase is talking crap about a game they haven't ever played.
And that's silly.
Agreed, hence my previous comments that we need to stop looking at this like an 80year old taking a golden-shower on our boyhood hero and start taking it seriously as a completely separate FPS that has absolutely no connections whatsoever with X-Com.
As far as getting attention from more people by what they've done with the whole name vs. gameplay thing... Well sadly that's where my concurrence ends
Besides the fact that this pretty much IS a FPS anyway then why does it matter what they call it? I think the choice of name is absolutely ludicrous and they haven't recieved a single positive comment from anyone who has ever played an X-Com game as far as I'm aware. Honestly, they're lucky some of us are willing to overlook the fact they screwed up with the name and address it purely on it's actual qualities of gameplay and the like.
I'm all for discussing how this game may be good or it may not be but I'm pretty much sick to death of people trying in vain to explain why it's some kind of spiritual successor to X-Com. The two games have clearly never met and based on what I've seen so far I wouldn't be surprised if they chose the name by mistake! If it has been some sort of attempt to attract fans of the old franchise they've done the worst possible job I could ever imagine and I hope they have their fingers in a few more pies or we can wave goodbye to 2k this year...