SoulBrotherKab Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Yeah, I only have the vanilla Heart of Iron 2. So the game ends in 1947. Hardly enough to start and finish World Wars 3 and/or 4. I just don't get why in these grand strategy or 4X games that representative government and ass kicking abilities are mutually exclusive. Greek city-states did alright for awhile. Rome had a good run. The US and UK have done fairly well. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 It's probably done to balance the game. Otherwise the US would win every time. The way HOI2 depicts the US doesn't seem to be 100% accurate either. At least, this is the feeling I get when playing as them. - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Democracies can DoW without strictures too, IIRC it's an option on the nation select section before starting a game. Might be worth giving it a try? They want to give you those territories or those nations want to join your Japandaland alliance? They want to join my alliance, that's all. How do you know how many divisions Persia has though? Flights over their provinces and then guesstimating? Yep. I mean, they had the majority of their army on the border anyway, so I could see it without overflying. They've got a decent size army for such a small nation (about 30 divs total), but it's no problem to carry on with my tacs ruining their Org continually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Democracies can DoW without strictures too, IIRC it's an option on the nation select section before starting a game. Might be worth giving it a try?I don't see it anywhere. Got a screenie of it? Yep. I mean, they had the majority of their army on the border anyway, so I could see it without overflying. They've got a decent size army for such a small nation (about 30 divs total), but it's no problem to carry on with my tacs ruining their Org continually.They probably don't have any AA fortifications or an Air Force though. - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBrotherKab Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Crush them! Make those Persians pay for Thermopylae (even though you're Asian and in no way democratic). Be nice to the Kurds though, they've taken enough beatings in the past 100 years. Maybe puppet out Kurdistan if that's a possible nation in HoI2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I don't see it anywhere. Got a screenie of it? Tsk. Suppose so.https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/options.jpg They probably don't have any AA fortifications or an Air Force though. They do have an air force, actually! Just fighters, mind, but six squadrons of 'em. Still, no problem for my escort fighters. Maybe puppet out Kurdistan if that's a possible nation in HoI2? Don't know, but if it is, parts of Kurdistan will be in other countries. Think I'll have to own them, or the VP provinces at least, before I can. It probably does exist, Wallonia and all sorts is possible, so bloody Kurdistan certainly should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBrotherKab Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 No...not the Walloons! If Wallonia is in the game...then I'm curious to see what Great Britain be balkanized into. Just the usual England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland or into smaller little kingdoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 ISTR it's just the usual England, Wales and Scotland, with a side order of Northern and Republic or United Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Tsk. Suppose so.https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/options.jpgDon't take that tone with me, Mister. I didn't have those options because I'm not running the same version as you (again). I downloaded what I thought was v1.2 VBLV but it wasn't. Then I downloaded the v1.3 beta. It has the options you do, but there are parts of the screen which are kinda broken (Armageddon and Abyss pics missing, one of the options outside the box etc). *sighs* Trying to find the right download is like trying to find a needle in a haystack... only harder. Humor me and point me in the right direction where I can find a download which is fairly up-to-date and mostly bug-free. - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 LOL, sorry Zombs. Try this one. I'm running the 1.2 VBLV, which is stable, AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Thank you sir, downloading now. Edit: Hmmm. I see v1.2 (RRJN) now. Pics of Armageddon and Abyss still missing and the last option still outside the box. I'd provide a screenshot if only I knew how. Any help would be appreciated. - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Well, the war was going my way, but it really was quite wasteful. Another peace offer, which I accepted:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/persiamostlymine.jpgGot a port out of it, which is all I wanted really. Now my fleets can cruise free, swishing about outside the Pacific. Persia held onto three whole provinces, and we have a peace treaty until 1952. I'll conquer the rest then, if I can be bothered. Meanwhile, the Brits mop up the last Hermans in Norway, and I annexed Germany (Belligerence 323). Didn't net me the country, though. Odd, I could have sworn that's how it works. Still, never mind, well ahead on VPs:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/vps1951.jpg The next step:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/saudime.jpgParas drop into Saudi Arabia, secure Dammam, and are followed up by all those divs who were fighting Persia not a million years ago, who will be shuttled across the Persian Gulf in troop transports now harboured in Bandar Abbas. Tac bomber support and fighter cover will be provided by planes flying out of Bandar Abbas. Once Saudi is mine, I'll have Medina, a port on the Red Sea, and I'll only be a handful of provinces away from the Suez Canal. More carriers, damn you!https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/carriersahoy.jpgI'm not actually building 160 carriers, just uing my spare IC that I've got lying around to knock out a few fleets quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBrotherKab Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Wow, the Holy Islamic Empire of...Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Shiny!https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/tjcaw.jpgThat'll be lovely to go with my nuclear-powered carriers. Star of the Reasonably-Priced War, 1951 As the Empire of Nippon celebrates the defeat of the Axis with a synchronised POW-beheading display, three senior officers are picked out for their exemplary performance, outstanding attitude, and nigh-perfect personal hygeine. The 'Swishing Around With A Bunch of Aircraft Carriers While Looking Good' Award:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/yamamoto.jpgThere's been no naval combat for years, but when there was some, Admiral Yamamoto made the most of it, and the ships he commanded whipped all-comers. If ever there was an admiral you could shoot out of your battleship's 46 cm guns and expect to sink the enemy ship, this is he. The 'I've Got Dysntery But It Shall Not Detract From My Strategic Genius' Award:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/terauchi.jpgAgainst the various Chinese nations, the Soviet Union, Germany, Italy, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and so on and so forth, General Terauchi has been there, seen it, done that, and got the kimono. The fiercest combat in the worst Hellholes is music to his delicate shell-like ears. The 'Dude, My Wing Is On Fire! On Fire Like The Enemy, Hahaha' Award:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/obata.jpgRunning the most experienced tac bomber wing in the whole IJAF, Air Marshal Obata has dropped more bombs than the Luftwaffe and has been shot up more times than Kurt Cobain. Air superiority or not, he goes up, drops his load all over the enemy and goes home, and keeps on doing it until his undercarriage comes off. I haven't talked much about leaders, mainly because Japan's blessed with loads of them. Most of them have decent abilities, too. Offensive Doctrine is rather commonplace, so much so that I've come to take it for granted. I have enough leaders with the right abilities for almost all of my forces, which is very rare (e.g. all my sub fleet commanders have the Sea Wolf ability, all my tac bomber commanders have the Tank Buster ability, and so on) and those that don't have any have learned some through all the warfare I've had (current star is General Tojo, who started with no abilities and has learned four so far). I am short on Lt. Gens. with the Commando ability, to get the best out of my para forces, but I've been training up Mj. Gens. with it and promoting them ASAP. Although they're then low on skill, they'll pick up plenty of experience being the tip of the sword. Europe in 1951:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/europe1951.jpgThe UK owns Norway, the US owns West Germany, Luxembourg and Denmark, France owns Italy, I own lots of people. Think I'll build some forts on my border, and on the German coast. I'm not going to start a war with the Yanks, but I want the best possible home ground to fight on if they start with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBrotherKab Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Looks like you could use a port in the Med. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I've got Sevastapol in the Black Sea, that's just around the corner. It's a nice little pocket of water I can easily dominate, so it'll be a safe haven for any fleets I send there. Say hello to Pakistan:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/pakistan.jpg And India:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/india.jpgSlightly behind schedule, but never mind. India could be a threat in a few year's time, when it gets some forces together. I better get my thinking cap on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBrotherKab Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Subjugate them through an alliance. Kinda like the Iranians wanted to throw at you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I was looking seriously at invading. but after doing a cost/profit assessment, that idea has been shelved. India has 109 manpower, 33 base IC, 35 metals, 89 energy, 12 rares and 15 VPs. Having had experience trying to police India in previous games, they're often unruly and being geographically considerable, I have no wish to take them on currently. It will be months before their military is in any sort of fighting shape, but I just don't want another big and not-especially-rich chunk of land to rule, certainly not one with a big coastline, located with Allied posessions in close proximity to the east and west. Meanwhile, back at Ranchero Researcho:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/nukecarrier.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBrotherKab Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Alright, CVNs. Queen of the Seas. About India...if you leave them alone, any chance they'll fall into the Allies sphere of influence? What camp do they fall into once they go independent? My guess would be Comintern. If they do fit into the Comintern house, and you've effectively eliminated the entire Comintern (may Allah bless the great Emperor Hirohito), then what's a free India to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 India are unaligned when they pop, so they could end up in any of the big three alliances. However, the Axis is usually done, the Comintern is usually too busy in Eastern Europe, and India is put off the Allies because the UK is part of it. They usually sway towards the Allies, being a democracy, but they don't usually join unless someone puts a lot of effort in. Well, the boys went in, bless their imperialistic little hearts, backed up by a wing of tacs, and a fleet.https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/parassault.jpg Three 3-div groups hit Dammam in quick succession, and despite being outnumbered (11 divs to 9):https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/dammamcaptured.jpgSuppose the aeroplanes and the ships helped a bit. Shortly after, my carrier fleet circled round and hit the airbase at Medina, preventing the Saudi fighters from doing anything meaningful as my tacs started bombing targets in the rest of the country:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/fleetcombat.jpgMinor damage to one CVL in return for paralysing their air force? Oh, okay then. With Saudi only having one VP province, Riyadh, as soon as that was captured, I could and did annexe the country:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/saudiowned.jpg As one country falls, another rises:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/egypt.jpg And to my horror, I discover I can't use any of my ports in the Black Sea because Turkey doesn't like me:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/cantuseblksea.jpgSend in the diplomats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 And to my horror, I discover I can't use any of my ports in the Black Sea because Turkey doesn't like me:https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/FullAuto_2006/cantuseblksea.jpgSend in the diplomats!What! And huh? It's invasion time FA. Take over Turkey, that'll show them. - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knan Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Turkey is a pain to invade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Well, if anyone could invade without too much hassle, it has to be FA. His troops are fairly close by anyway. - Zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBrotherKab Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Man, those Saudis didn't put up much of a fight when you pretty much owned their two holy cites of Mecca and Medina. For all of the jihadi holy warrior bluster and posturing...that wasn't much of a fight. HOW LAME. I wanted world ending Armageddon like they're always claiming that will happen is the infidels get out of line. BTW, when you take over Turkey...go after the other non-aligned Mid East countries too. I want to see a Kurdistan. They could become your loyal lapdog and your Mid East enforcers. Peshmerga fo' lyfe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullAuto Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I think I can get Turkey to open up via getting chummy with them, which I'd rather do as my IC is a bit stretched (upgrading alone is costing me 452 IC, as nearly all of my aircraft are getting their last upgrade). I don't need more demands from reinforcements and supplies just now. Southern Turkey is just in range of my shiny new air transports, so I could drop paras there, take their coast, and steam some reinforcements in, while holding at the borders with my allied troops. But Knan is correct, Turkey is a lot of rough terrain, and the weather ATM is terrible, it's pissing down with rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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