TYR Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Since the relase of AL is very close i decided to open up a new topic.As discussed in other threads id like you to introduce the first preview on a weapon modificationfor UFO Afterlight called the 21CW mod. The goal is to implement mankinds most advanced most futuristic real weaponry for our martian decendants and give the player more diversity and more firepower. Although there is no functional tool to implement new models yet, there are already steps takenand im quite confident that such tools will be aviable soon. Now lets see what this is all about: The current mod team consist of me (TYR) and Blackalmaz. We have been participating on creatingthe most sucessful mod for UFO Aftermath called the weaponcombo mod.I have already started modeling and completed 3 meshes so far, and already textured as seen below. The first goal is to create the models for the following weapons and texture them so implemention into gameis possible asap theres a proper tool aviable. The current list is as follows: XM25 grenade launcher -- (modeled) (textured)calico m100 automatic pistol -- (modeled) (textured)Type95 Assaultrifle -- (modeled) (textured)Steyr Aug Assault rifle --AICW - (Advanced version of the AUG) --FN2000 Assaultrifle --Jackhammer Shotgun -- (modeled)Xm109 --IWS2000 -- This is my current list, feel free to suggest more, and if possibly provide some photographs so i dont have to spend too much time on searching for them. https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/57/rendered1cf6.th.jpghttps://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3029/rendered2dc3.th.jpghttps://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2600/rendered3nb9.th.jpghttps://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9881/rendered4qp7.th.jpgheres a little video in aftermath style https://www.sharebigfile.com/file/75485/xm28-avi.html https://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3836/calicogroupfd7.th.jpgModel of the Calico M100 pistol as seen in Total Recall with Arnie And here it is texturedhttps://img464.imageshack.us/img464/3132/rendered1cg5.th.jpghttps://img49.imageshack.us/img49/214/rendered2nq0.th.jpghttps://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7740/rendered3jo1.th.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Do you wish to participate in this mod ? Do you plan to make a mod on your own ? If so feel free to contact me via pm or msn/email viewable in my details. I would always like to welcome people who wish to participate in modding UFO Afterlight,and probably we will be able to launch a large scale modification soon. Any help is welcomeeither if you do scripting, modeling, texturing, writing background infos it will all come in handyonce the modtools are ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gringo Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Could you perhaps consider implementing a modular weapons system(s) like this?Do keep up the good work, TYR.And the gun to rule them all might find it's way as well: Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Could you perhaps consider implementing a modular weapons system(s) like this?Well the Xm25 is actually a part of this weaponsystem, they split the OICW system up into the xm8 and the xm25 as they where unable to reach weightgoals and other troubles. The planned Fn2000 and AICW are modular weapon systems, however im not sure if such a weapon is makable, because they will use 2 different types of ammo (at the same time) and i do not know if AL will support this feature.Do keep up the good work, TYR.Thanks, i will try to And the gun to rule them all might find it's way as well: Link. Yes the "M82" is surely a nice thingy to have, ill add it to the list. But have you already seen thishttps://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2544/14225437503d31ef82ago9.th.jpgone ? IF it comes to firepower this is the most powerful rifle ever created it can pierce any modern APC 2 times, its called iws2000, in real its just a prototype though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaughter Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Good stuff TYR! Hopefully we'll have better tools this time around to help your modding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gringo Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Could you perhaps consider implementing a modular weapons system(s) like this?Well the Xm25 is actually a part of this weaponsystem, they split the OICW system up into the xm8 and the xm25 as they where unable to reach weightgoals and other troubles. The planned Fn2000 and AICW are modular weapon systems, however im not sure if such a weapon is makable, because they will use 2 different types of ammo (at the same time) and i do not know if AL will support this feature.Do keep up the good work, TYR.Thanks, i will try to And the gun to rule them all might find it's way as well: Link. Yes the "M82" is surely a nice thingy to have, ill add it to the list. But have you already seen thishttps://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2544/14225437503d31ef82ago9.th.jpgone ? IF it comes to firepower this is the most powerful rifle ever created it can pierce any modern APC 2 times, its called iws2000, in real its just a prototype though.*Drools heavily* A reticulan doesn't stand a chance....Your mod made me look around the web for some research and I came across the good old Discovery Channel that actually has made a series of showcasing some of the weapons systems of the 21st century.There are videos clips too Link here.Note to self: Helmets are becoming swiss cheese when meeting an MP7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 a series of showcasing some of the weapons systems of the 21st century.There are videos clips too Link here. I'll check it out, they also link to a website Have a look on their videos about the quadrogun mini tank drone, i think the vehicles like this in AL where probably inspired by it. And if possible i will mod that little devil in https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8049/44ir7.th.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gringo Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Metalstorm is indeed an interesting concept. Especially the 9 mm version as well as the 'mortar battery' version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Okay, heres another one: A chinese type95 assault rifle.It was actually not on the list but i wanted to try a different modeling technique and it was just perfectfor it. The result is well okay, it does have much more vertiges and the shape is a whole step more accurate. I quit modeling it at some lets say raw build because it was really complex and disturbing to model it further, besides even this grade of detail is probably nonsense. Thanks to the superior texture i have for this one it looks actually much better than my other ones https://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9549/type95renderediw0.th.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaughter Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Excellent! This looks very good as you say, due to a very nicely detailed texture. Cool weapon too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Okay and heres the next: A Jackhammer shotgun! Although not textured atm shes a real beaty https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1566/sidepp6.th.jpg https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4594/leftsi4.th.jpg https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8283/perssm2.th.jpg https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4720/rightwm6.th.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Heres a first ingame screenshot of a Type 95 assault rifle! https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5439/type95ingamevv5.th.jpg The model is not yet textured and the positioning will need some correction, but in general it works! probably there should be a limitation of such weapons to light suits, as they would be impossible to handle with such thick gloves imho. EDIT: An here i prodly present the first textured modded weapon ingame https://img243.imageshack.us/img243/713/sshot20070214090501ni3.th.jpghttps://img243.imageshack.us/img243/825/sshot20070214090850kn5.th.jpghttps://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3434/sshot20070214105545dg7.th.jpg I still have to replace the bump,spec and reflectionmapping, but thats rather polishing work,also the correct position of the weapon in the hands of our combatants is abit of trial error, but thats really just cosmetic stuff. The next thing to figure out is how to properly add weaponinfos and imagesfor ammo/weapon in the equipmentwindow + the research options, i do hope to get some help there, since im not too familiar with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAlmaz Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 hey you should mod this model into the type 95 its alot smaller, so it wont need to run into the shoulder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 hey you should mod this model into the type 95 its alot smaller, so it wont need to run into the shoulder Seesh thats just a first preview , i will adjust everything as soon as i figured out the rest with the textfiles of AL. changing the size of the model isnt really a big deal, the problem is to adjust them to the game, because the original game models are all somewhat bulky, take the fn2000 for example. It would probably make sense to adjust the new ones to this style. I will consult the web databases on weapon dimensions to though and then see how they work ingame. If you like you can dig into the textfiles, i need to figure out what must be added, like the description, production of items, research and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAlmaz Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 yeah first i have to buy the game its not out here yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 yeah first i have to buy the game its not out here yet The game may not be out in Australia yet, but the first preview version of 21CW is already out The Updated File is downloadable here: https://www.mediafire.com/?dymk3jd1gjk It does change add the following things: Adds a new ancient rifle model (Type 95) which is producable as soon as you research basic firearms. Enables the ability to produce FN2000, Colt, Pistol, and their ammo as soon as you research basic firearms. Please tell me what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaughter Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 That was quick . Glad to see some dedicated modding again! I've added the mod and some screens to our files section. Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 That was quick . Glad to see some dedicated modding again! I've added the mod and some screens to our files section. Keep up the good work!Yes i had an inspiration, ill try to keep it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 That was quick . Glad to see some dedicated modding again! I've added the mod and some screens to our files section. Keep up the good work!Yes i had an inspiration, ill try to keep it up 2nd Preview Version of the 21CW released Changes: M950 Pistol Added. Update The first version was oddly corrupted this one works New Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaughter Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Files section updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Here are some ingame screenshoots of my latest model. I used an original texture for it, as you see it does match the original weaponry quite well. I will experiment with that further, probably the martian developed weapons will get all some more martian style, while the ones of earth origin keep their real world style. https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3091/sshot20070218114443dy6.th.jpghttps://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3273/sshot20070218123923ld5.th.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAlmaz Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 have you seen the animeation apple seed. i think we should add some weapons from there..and i think i could make the textures for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 have you seen the animeation apple seed. i think we should add some weapons from there..and i think i could make the textures for themNope whats that ? I just finished the model for the iws2000 rifle, was quite a pain as i only have like 2 reference images, which makes modeling more like hocus pocus than accurate building. https://img382.imageshack.us/img382/226/iws2000vw7.th.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAlmaz Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 looks to good,...here..is a site of the manga, it was made fromhttps://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Fuji/3598/shirow_guns.html but at the same time i racan i can be a bit creative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYR Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 the weapons look very cool, they would be a nice addition, the problem is as reference images they dont make much, for modeling it would be needed to have better quality ones, it would be a difficult job to model them from that only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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