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Poll: Choose your candidates (18 member(s) have cast votes)

Choose your candidates

  1. Candidate A (4 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  2. Candidate B (6 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  3. Candidate C (8 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

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#21 Strong Bob

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 01:27 AM

You'll need to ward off the meddling adventurers that will, no doubt, desire your horde and will die for. As the next order of business, under my reign, will be reestablishing life's priorities and values to that of a video roleplaying game. :cool:

The world's currency will all be converted to "Gold Pieces" and a person's current level of health can be rated in "HP". Police will no longer patrol highways between cities, so one must be wary against bandits and thieves. And finally, one's abilities and aptitudes will be rated on paper as "modifiers".

Utopia here we come.
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 09:52 AM

Excellent!

People will have to give me an emerald whenever they want to cross a bridge, just like in Adventure!  I can spend all day squishing dwarves and elves without anyone complaining.  And woebetide any traveller with a billygoat.

Think of the health care system reforms: you will soon be able to just go to the wizard's shop and buy a potion with the money you get from slaughtering all those skeletal warriors.

Finally all that sunblock I need to stop turning into stone during the day will be worthwhile :cool:

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 03:57 PM

Can I be the young warrior that wanders the wilderness leveling up to defeat you all? :cool:
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 04:46 PM

Only if you don't go after any bridge trolls.

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Posted 08 May 2005 - 07:34 AM

Jman4117, on May 7 2005, 11:57 AM, said:

Can I be the young warrior that wanders the wilderness leveling up to defeat you all? ;)

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Only if you kill Bridge Trolls exclusively. :cool:
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 12:55 AM

I voted for A. Roosevelt.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 08:13 AM

My ideal candidate for President would be someone who orders the treasury to hand out a couple of million to every man woman and child in the country. So will poverty be eliminated at a stroke and everyone would become a millionaire. There'll be no need for any of us to worry about  rent or bills anymore. We can all just kick back, enjoy a life of luxury and go off on holiday any time we want !

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#28 Strong Bob

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:38 AM

I'd sooner invest in a money tree. :cool:
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#29 Zombie

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 04:02 AM

The problem with polls of this type is the tone the author takes while writing the descriptions of each candidate. Let's list all the terms used to describe each one:

Candidate A: Corrupt, astrologers, mistresses, smokes and drinks heavily.
Candidate B: Fired, sleeps, smokes opium (drugs) and drinks heavily.
Candidate C: Medal-holder, war hero, vegetarian, occasional drinker and no marital affairs.

Do you see a bias? Being a semantics and logic buff, I recognized this immediately and refused to vote. Candidates A and B are shed in a damaging light, while Candidate C in an optimistic light. If you want a different perspective on the candidate's histories, reverse the bias by reading their complete bios. Candidate C is now overwhelmingly negative, while A and B are positive. :cool:

While it may be interesting to discuss the philosophical viewpoints of misrepresentation, for all intensive purposes nothing is learned unless you can distinguish between localized bias and comprehensive truth. ;)

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Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 11:14 AM

I thought the point of the poll was to show that each individual historical statesman had both good things and bad things going for them.  Very often historians want to represent someone in a particular way, so they tend to deliberately overlook things that don't fit this pattern.  

For instance, if you look through a book of English history, you can see how the historians have divided English kings into good kings and bad kings (generally based on how they got on in wars against neighbouring countries), thus saving the reader from having to go to the effort of actually thinking.  King John = Bad King because he was defeated by the French.  Henry V = Good King because he defeated the French.

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 01:01 PM

I guess it all depends upon if you view sleeping in, smoking drugs and drinking as bad things.

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#32 Zombie

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:29 PM

Accounting troll, on May 15 2005, 06:14 AM, said:

I thought the point of the poll was to show that each individual historical statesman had both good things and bad things going for them.

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Do you see any positive points about Candidate A and B? Nope, just the bad were listed. What about Candidate C? His attributes never list he was a genocidal maniac who orchestrated the deaths of millions of people in WWII.  :cool:

The purpose of polls like this is to deliberately lead the person to choose a candidate which they would never vote for. However, the information given is only part of the picture. Had everyone seen the full representation of each candidate, I'm sure no one would vote for C.

Perhaps the rationale of polls like this is to point out the dangers of not knowing everything about the candidate you are thinking of voting for. ;)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

#33 Strong Bob

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 11:02 PM

I think Troll and Zombie are right. (What the hell, I feel like I'm talking to a couple of RPG monsters... The names.)

It's deliberately meant to make you pick C, but that's nowhere near the point of the article. (If it was, then they ended up sending a significantly bigger picture.)

Zombie's final sentence seems to work for me. (Even if it does disagree with the point he made just one paragraph prior. :cool: ) It's an eye opener in some ways. But really now... They were all good leaders, on terms of skill. I guess nature has ways of compensating for morality... (Didn't do any of the other crap, so Hitler made up for it by murdering thousands. >_< )
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