cenkbut Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 I have a soldier which has excellent psi skill and when I use psi crusher, after a few tries he kills the reticulan. Is this normal? Shall I use psi blaster instead to control the aliens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaric Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Those small psi stingers are the only ones I've seen controlling an enemy, I think that's because they have PSI damage type and the crusher and blaster have EXCEPTION damage type. Could be wrong tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenkbut Posted October 22, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 I think so too. I'll definitely try the stinger, I hope it does not need very close range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpa Bob Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 I recently restarted, but before I did I had researched as far as the psi crusher and I'm pretty sure its description was that of a weapon designed to damage the enemy not control them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 The psi projector(handgun type) is the only psi weapon i have controlled enemies with, the crusher and the stinger are both damage weapons i think. The first time I played I didnt come across any psi projectors at all, the auto looting that happens didnt pick any up. On my next attempt i made sure I looted one from a reticulan that was controlling my guys, and have they have been on the auto loot list since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl. Facehugger Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Psi Stingers stun enemies I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazMaN Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 ive just finished the russia mission, and got myself a psi projector, i equipped it to a soldier with heroic psi power. How do i actually control the aliens? i attack them with the projector but at the moment it just deals bout 200 damage to them, and it runs out of ammo fairly sharpish. Can u only control reticulans, or can you control transengants aswell? because i think i may have only targetted trans with it so far!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzo Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 I remember controlling aliens without too much trouble...within 3 shots I would have them and i wouldnt damage them - check the weapons out in the glossary that will tell u... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowBlade Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 I've only tried the Alien Psi Projector on Reticulans, so here's my advice. It's weird that the device damaged the alien you aimed at. When you mind-control a peanut-head, (by hitting him with the psi beam, usually in one shot if you're close enough) his portrait replaces your character's (the one that is controlling him) and you can play with him as if it were one of your soldiers (order him to shoot his mates, drop his weapons, manage his inventory, etc.). And yes, the Psi Projector has little ammo (12) and it's unreloadable, so use it wisely (at close range, to increase its accuracy) because you'll have to drop it and fetch another one if it runs out of ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzo Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 yeah it was a bit wierd controlling aliens - you cant use your original soldier which is a bit wierd...but anyway it felt a bit cheap controlling them and then executing them...personally i like the old fasioned way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazMaN Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 yay, it started working, she musta just needed practice with it or somthing the thing i like to do is control em make em drop their gear then run em around spotting other aliens and do the same, trying to get at the bloody microslug carriers!! another thing, ive got a couple of microslugs in my armoury, but no ammo, where do i get ammo? is it an alien power pak? because thats stil in my "not able to develop yet" list ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzo Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 hmm i think i remem getting one without ammo..dont worry just do some more missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl. Facehugger Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Microslug guns have their own seperate ammo. You can probably find it on an alien that has not shot his microslug yet. I still perfer the collapseable rail gun. That thing is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzo Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 haha never even bothered with that...i didnt get past the satisfaction of the gatling cannon!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowBlade Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Microslug Accelerators are unreloadable, you have to throw them away once you run out of ammo. I haven't manufactured Collapsible Railguns yet, are they like an improvised Terran Microslug Accelerator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazMaN Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 ya, but ur guy moves soooooooooooooo slow, and takes 3 weeks to set the gun up ready to fire. I tried it in 3 missions, and in all that time he only got off 1 attack at an alien, all the other times my other guys wasted it before he had chance to fire (mind you it did 2500 damage when it did hit ) not useful enough imo. im waiting for the gatling gun, how you get that? does it come4 from taking over a base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl. Facehugger Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Lets see, Gattling guns and Twin Machine guns can only be found in bases. They weigh a huge amount, but they don't need to deploy to fire. I still like the collapseable railgun, I love its ROF (30 something per second in my game, unless I am reading it wrong:)) and I find it is incredibly useful if there are more than 2 enemies in range at once (because you can chain target and kill all of them faster than malcom's voice can annoy someone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazMaN Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 is their a way u can set up the gun before firing? because, normally when i see a target at aim at him, my guy has to dismount it 1st then fire, and normally hes been hit a few times by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowBlade Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 No, the guy will only deploy the weapon when you order him to attack, it's an inconvenience that should be fixed in the next patch (1.3, where are you??). However, I think that you can deploy it if you know the peanut-heads are coming if you order the soldier to fire at the ground by using the Attack button (hotkey: A), though I haven't tested it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazMaN Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 har, thats a good tactic, cos last few base missions, ive basically had to lay ambushes , because the rets have been kickin my ass , so if i set my fella up and shot at the florr guarding a 1 way in room, PARTY time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazMaN Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 nope, dont work, i tried that tactic of getting my blok to cover a door, then taking a shot at it so he can get in firing position, but as soon as he has shot, he dissasembles the gun :/ railgun = useless!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl. Facehugger Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Normally, after every shot he closes the railgun back up again. However, if you let him shoot, then hit spacebar (to pause it) you can order him to shoot again and again until a grey or two show up. Although I agree a "deploy collapseable weapon" button would be incredibly useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matri Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Boy, talk about going off-topic... Anyways, the Psi-Crusher isn't supposed to allow control, it's supposed to give you one heck of a headache... Why would you call something "crusher" if it allows you to capture instead of destroy anyway? And I agree with the collapsible argument. The whole point of being collapsible is so that it can be easily transported, not because it lets your guys play Origami during a mission!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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