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#1 Ice2056

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Posted 08 December 2002 - 05:11 PM

I've been trying to get MS-Dos 6.22 running in VMware. Got my cd-rom and mouse working. But when I try to install my sound drivers this happens:
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I already tried memmaker. Isn't there a way of increasing your "convential" memory with VMware?

Running UFO without sound also crashes my virtual pc. Might also be memory related.
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Posted 08 December 2002 - 11:05 PM

I think conventional memory comes from that small block of 640 (or sometihng) that every computer has.  Try disabling some of your resident programs...
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#3 Chrysalid_zombie

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Posted 09 December 2002 - 12:29 AM

*Puts on 'expert' hat as he once typed in a command in DOS :D* Basically this is Bill Gates saying **** off any one that wants to play games on my computers!. He design MS-DOS to use only 640K of conventional memory. Sadly, the only way to stop this is to remove programs and drivers running in the background (unless there is a new way).
For this you will need:

Some old fashioned DOS CD drivers
Mouse.com (the only mouse driver I ever needed)
Soundcard drivers... Which will be the problem I suspect.

The first two aren't too important and even new ones shouldn't take up memory too bad... Soundcards are a different mammal and need care. If you're card can emulate SB-16 sound, use it. Install SB-16 DOS drivers into the virtual PC's boot up. I'll try and dig out an original copy of them from my many old files on floppy disk ;).

Other than those three things you need nothing I can remember.  With these I had 486's running UFO like a dream and I'll try and find the original config.sys and autoexec.bat files I used (They'll have all you need) as well as my old drivers. Using the bare minimum like that should allow the thing to run no trouble... Now where did I put those floppies...

P.S. Sorry if you have tried all of this or its gone over your head, I don't know how much people around here know about DOS and 'the olden days' so I'm sorry to cause any offence. :) I'll put up another post as soon as I find my old stuff that should be able to help you.
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#4 Ice2056

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Posted 09 December 2002 - 09:03 AM

The only programmes I got running are my cd-rom and mouse drivers. I used the origional mouse.com which I had on some old disk but the cd-rom drivers are pretty new. I downloaded them for my cd-writer might take up less memory if I try to get some for my other cd-rom drive. The problem is, I can't find any.

The Sound Blaster 16/AWE for DOS/Windows 3.1 drivers I downloaded were the only ones I could find on the creative labs site. That were the ones who gave the error  :D

I have a Creative labs Soundblaster Live, I think it can emulate a SB16
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Posted 09 December 2002 - 02:27 PM

Try putting this:

In config.sys:

device=c:\dos\emm386.exe noems

In autoexec.bat

lh mscdex /..... (cdrom load line)
lh mouse (mouse load line)
lh audio ....  (sound card load line)

And remember, no matter which soundcard do you have VMWare emulates a SB16, so you have to install a SB16 driver :D
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Posted 09 December 2002 - 06:20 PM

I think that the Win 3.11/Dos drivers aren't. I think they actually need Win 3.11! Lying gits! :D

Anyhow, I'm not sure how you could have insufficient memory if you're only running Mouse and CD drivers.... A mystery indeed. In the systems.ini file add this line. It might work, you never know ;)

DOS=HIGH

It loads Dos into the proper style memory instead of the precious 640K stuff. As I say, it may not do anything major, but it must be worth a try. :)
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#7 Ice2056

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Posted 09 December 2002 - 06:28 PM

I've installed my SB16 sounddrivers after disabeling everything because it didn't work with toghether with my cd-rom drivers.

Now I still have some trouble. The autodetected configuration of my sound card seems to have failed.

My autoexec now looks like this:
C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q
C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD000 /M:12 /v
C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\DOS
SET TEMP=C:\DOS
MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((850) C:\DOS\EGA.CPI)
MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=850
C:\ROM\DOSIDLE.EXE
C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
C:\NC\NC.EXE

After this command: C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S this error appears:
error dign8002 the blaster environment settings are invalid

The emm386 command gives the following error:
invalid parameter - noems

The device=c:\dos\emm386.exe noems line gave the "not found" error. So I changed it into C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS

I'm kinda stuck again  :hmmm:

Just posting my config.sys 2 in case ne1 sees errors in it:
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
BUFFERS=15,0
REM ** FILES=30
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=E
FCBS=4,0
DEVICEHIGH /L:2,12048 =C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DOS=HIGH
COUNTRY=031,850,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1)
DEVICE=C:\DEV\ATAPI_CD.SYS /D:MSCD000 /I:0
FILES=40

lol I just see Chrysalid has posted while I reviewed my post. I'll try that one now :D
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Posted 09 December 2002 - 06:34 PM

Wait a sec I don't have a systems.ini file. I checked and it's in my config.sys in case you meant that one.
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Posted 10 December 2002 - 01:19 AM

Have you put the device=c:\dos\emm386.exe *after* the device=c:\dos\himem.sys ?

DOS=HIGH... yup, forgot that one... try instead putting:

DOS=HIGH, UMB

Also, remove DEVICE=C:\DOS\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1) as it eats up memory for no use :D
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Posted 10 December 2002 - 01:06 PM

thnx
Now just about everything is solved.
Except my soundcard still refuses to work  :dontgetit:
I tried the diagnostic utility that came with it and it gives an error for every I/O adress I try.  :dontgetit:
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 08:51 PM

Hmm.... try to see the soundcard emulation parameters set by VMWare :D
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Posted 15 December 2002 - 03:39 PM

I have given up. Just heard I will have a new comp in two weeks or so and this one will be dismantled and salvaged  :D. I will install win xp on my new comp and then create a virtual machine with win 98. It should easily be able to run both of them at one time. This one might be able to do that to but I'm a bit short on disk space.
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