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#381 Thorondor

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 09:05 AM

Somehow that whole area above the small roof suddenly seems to me far larger to cover than was apparent in your pics before, Zombie. Posted Image

You've got things well in hand though, as your outlined game plan demonstrates.

As for the garage window I can't say I agree with the "powers that be"; that crack is rather ugly and I can't imagine it would be so outrageously expensive to arrange for a replacement. That glass doesn't even strike me as being of the thicker variety, but it's hard to estimate just from the snap you took.

Frame of the door: well done. Door itself: wood grain or not, that varnish tone is just not my cup of tea. Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things. Posted Image

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Posted 10 October 2020 - 01:49 AM

View PostThorondor, on 09 October 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

Somehow that whole area above the small roof suddenly seems to me far larger to cover than was apparent in your pics before, Zombie. Posted Image

It's mostly just long, the max height is approximately 1 meter so the area isn't ginormous. Putz work mainly as I can only reach 4 boards without moving the ladder.

View PostThorondor, on 09 October 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

As for the garage window I can't say I agree with the "powers that be"; that crack is rather ugly and I can't imagine it would be so outrageously expensive to arrange for a replacement. That glass doesn't even strike me as being of the thicker variety, but it's hard to estimate just from the snap you took.

Totally agree, if it would be up to me I'd just replace the window outright. I think he's just getting anxious to relist the house on the market again and doesn't want to spend the time on it. Will that detract from the look and precipitate a lower offer? Maybe, but unlikely as it'll be hard to see unless you are right next to it. I guess it all depends how close it is inspected.

View PostThorondor, on 09 October 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

Frame of the door: well done. Door itself: wood grain or not, that varnish tone is just not my cup of tea. Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things. Posted Image

Depends how much time I can spend on it, but I can always pick up another quart of paint and then I'd have enough to paint the entire door. Think I'm just going to try touching up the spots on it first with some varnish. If it still looks like crap then I'll get out the primer and paint. Posted Image

Well, it was too bust at work to tear myself away to go to the house so I tried to tie up some loose ends at the store instead. Those 4 plywood pads for under the metal table legs still needed another coat of gray polyurethane so I brushed another coat on one side.

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There was only a little paint at the bottom of the pail so I thought I should probably use it up before it completely hardens over. One of the rolling tables by the back cooler needed another coat on the top so I did that.

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I put an orange traffic cone in front of the table to warn of the wet paint. It was drying pretty quick though because I added a splash of paint thinner to make the last bit easier to brush. There was still some left though so I went back to the standby: the threshold to the one red door. It wasn't in bad shape - just some cracks and a couple spots with loose paint. Figured another coat should give it a little more protection from the upcoming snow, ice and salt the winter will bring.

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Much better. Stuck some traffic cones on either side of the door (inside and out) to warn of the wet paint (not expecting anyone to step on it except for maybe the bossman if he comes in late and doesn't smell the fumes). Posted Image To finish off the last bit of the pail I brushed on a coat on the bottom of the galvanized metal tub and part of the sides. Still have a full pail of the stuff I got at the paint store to use on the table in the backroom, cooler floor (though I have some in another container with sand in it for traction) and the new tabletop I installed by the front a couple years ago (the top still looks almost brand new but it could use a freshening up and I never got to the bottom yet). Oh, and the lower shelves of the rolling tables could use another coat too.

Hopefully I can swing over to the house and get some caulking done. I have part of the West side to do as well as the South so there's plenty left. Thankfully I have about 7 tubes of caulk which should be enough to finish whatever I need to do there and still have some left for the store (used up about 3 tubes of my personal stock which I like to keep enough on hand for emergencies - can never have too much caulk). Posted Image

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Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 12:45 AM

A hodgepodge of projects at the house today (didn't really expect it to turn out like this, but things needed to get done). First thing I did was reinstall the molding for the window inside the garage - made sure to lay down a heavy bead of caulk before. After I pounded in the nails to secure the molding to the frame I caulked the joints.

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Throughout the day I worked on caulking the West side. Got pretty far but there's more to go yet. When I used up my second full tube I decided to stop as I didn't want to open another and have it dry out. Made that mistake more than once. It was nearing quitting time anyway.

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Basically the only caulking left on the West side is above the window and one joint to the left of the window (the 3rd joint). I figure about a tube and a half for that and maybe another half a tube for the rough areas. You may notice that I finally filled in the space underneath the window frame with water putty. Since I was doing that I made some extra to do the two areas on the North side.

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For that ledge in the 2nd picture, I dug out all the old putty and completely rebuilt it. It's not perfect, but I still need to sand it when it's dry which should make it look like a ledge again. Caulk will fill in any low areas after the sanding. Jumped to the inside of the garage to work on the big gouges and holes in the wall where the new piece of drywall was installed. (Apologies, the pic is a little washed out because it was so sunny).

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Dunno why I thought I should use water putty to fill in a hole, but what's done is done. If anything it should make the transition a little more robust. Filled in the rest of the areas with drywall compound. Still have to tape and mud the joints of the new piece of drywall and then that wall should be ready for priming and paint.

The last project I did was paint some metal vent plates for the ducts inside the house. (Sorry no pic of this, I pressed the button on the camera but maybe I didn't press hard enough). The two I did were rusty or had tape residue and were chipping in areas. I sanded them down a little and sprayed them with a primer. The original plan was to spray them with an almond spray paint, but I noticed that the original color of the paint was very similar (if not exactly the same as) the color I used to paint the frame of the door inside the garage. That makes it easy, so I brushed on a light coat of that. I'll make sure to get a pic of them tomorrow. Posted Image

I took stock of caulking and realized I have 4 full tubes left. Not sure it's going to be enough to finish the West side and the South side too so I'll probably be going back to the paint store to get some more. This time I might get a mixture of colors, but heavy on the gray of course. Plus I know I'm going to need another gallon of the siding stain for rolling on the final coat. And my water putty supply is steadily shrinking too. And I might order another gallon of the red polyurethane for the boards and table tops in the greenhouse. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 03:59 AM

View PostZombie, on 14 October 2020 - 12:45 AM, said:

The last project I did was paint some metal vent plates for the ducts inside the house. (Sorry no pic of this, I pressed the button on the camera but maybe I didn't press hard enough).

Found out what happened. There's a folder where the pictures are saved to in the memory card, and when you use up all the unique memory spots the camera creates a new folder and starts saving pics there. That's why I didn't see the picture as it was in a different folder. So here's a pic of the vent plates.

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Compared to what they looked like before, it's 100% better. Even better is that the sheen is perfect: the satin finish isn't super shiny and isn't flat either. Plus it's easier to work with than a semi-gloss.

Today there was a chance of rain forecast in the late afternoon/evening so I decided not to do any painting outside whatsoever. But caulking is ok as long as it skins over before the rain comes. Started with the peak on the South side above the front door.

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Kind of a pain in the butt because it was so windy it was blowing the putty knife and canvas off the roof and blew the hat off my head too. Powered through it and got it done. Took about a tube and a half of caulk. Since I had leftovers I decided to go to the West side. Dumped the rest of that tube into the wall. Found a partially empty tube in the garage which I was going to throw out because the caulk got hard in the spout and squeezed out the back behind the plunger. Cleaned the back out by scraping the sides with a paint stick, and cleaned out the spout by cutting the opening bigger to allow a screw to be inserted and pulled out. Somehow that worked, so I dumped the rest of that tube into the wall as well.

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The only part I didn't caulk yet is the joints between the boards above the window. Have two full tubes left so that should be enough for the time being. I also used the extension ladder to reach the red area at the top of the peak. Scraped that off partially. (I never really noticed this before, but the window is not centered under the peak - it's offset to the South. Odd).

Here's a pic of the garbage barrel in the garage.

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Must've got something done as there are 6 empty tubes in there. Btw, the vinyl gloves in there are not mine, they are from the HVAC guys. I caulk with bare hands as cleanup is really easy with just warm water.

Dunno what's going to happen tomorrow, as flowers are coming so I have to process them before anything else. After that (and if time permits) I'll try to swing over to the house to get the rest of the caulking done and maybe even some painting. ;)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:00 AM

One should have gotten used to your work ethic by now, but, time and again, you still manage to blast past all expectations Zombie! Posted Image

That's a lot of ground you've covered in the past couple of days all around, including some more demanding tasks like outright partial reconstructions of entire sections.

Definite thumbs up on the outcome with those painted vent plates. The finish looks really smooth. Posted Image

So, it's plain to see in the end, ladies and gentlemen, right there - six in the barrel. Fun and games, but only for the Top Gun! Posted Image

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 12:54 PM

View PostZombie, on 15 October 2020 - 03:59 AM, said:

and cleaned out the spout by cutting the opening bigger to allow a screw to be inserted and pulled out. Somehow that worked, so I dumped the rest of that tube into the wall as well.

That's how I do it too - for some reason, closing the spout never works well enough to prevent the hardening.

It all looks like ten tons of work, man.

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 01:35 AM

I really put the hammer down today and got some things done at the house. There was a chance of rain forecast for 5PM so I wanted to get any painting done by 3PM at the latest otherwise the rain might wash off the stain. Started off on the South side and mopped out the peak area quickly.

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Didn't do the red fascia as that type of stain has a tendency to bleed if it gets wet. I did notice that the paint was drying fairly quick so I was confident enough to forge on. So I continued on to the West side and started painting by the chimney first working my way to the window. It took a little to get it covered but looked like it was hiding most of the "imperfections" in the wood. When I got to the window I had to do some caulking on the joints and boards themselves. Figured I'd start caulking to the upper right and work my way left to meet the newly painted area. When that was done I painted in the same fashion so that the caulking I applied first was painted first (so it has a chance to skin over).

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Just about the time I finished painting the West wall there were a few raindrops that fell, but it soon stopped. I know when to cut my losses so I cleaned up outside and started messing around with the wall inside the garage. Here's what it looked like after some sanding and scraping.

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For the top coat I first put down some fiberglass tape over the area which was bad, then mudded it as best I could. Even did the piece of new drywall. Swept up the mess too, so it looked better for the people coming to see the house (had 3 groups come through today so there's plenty of interest in the property and house). ;)

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Will need to do some sanding to smooth out the joint compound when it's dry. And I didn't bother mudding the screw holes on the right side of the new piece of drywall - figured I'll caulk them instead as it's less messy. After that's done I'm going to install a piece of wood as a baseboard to match the left side of the wall. Ended everything out by brushing on another coat of paint on the two duct vents. Quite a busy day, but I got a lot done. :)

So I have a little bit of caulk left in one tube from doing the West side, and one extra tube as emergency backup. Found a couple tubes of caulk at the store this morning in my painting drawer- one was white and the other was clear (both latex based, not silicone). Could probably use those for caulking in the garage as they aren't high quality but should hold up fine indoors.

As for the tan paint, I have one unopened gallon and about a quart left in the second can. So far I used up maybe a gallon on the three sides I painted so I should be able to squeeze by on the final coat as I'll roll that on and the coverage should be better as everything is now filled in. Still might pick up another gallon just to be safe, can always use the remnants at the store. There's plenty of red paint left so no worries there. Glad I got a full gallon of that though as most areas need 3 coats to cover properly. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 12:50 AM

Apparently the house is sold to the last potential buyer that visited on Friday! So I basically don't have to do any more improvements. I'm going to finish it off properly though and get the people a nice looking place. I like to think I played a role in getting the sale so quickly as I let the people look around early and they could see me doing improvements and I also eased their uncertainty of installing a gas range (instead of electric) as there is a gas line directly underneath the kitchen. ;) I have a few weeks until the deal is finalized and the keys are handed over.

In the garage I sanded the drywall compound over the joints to smooth everything out and brushed all the dust off. Then I used some of that "explosive" latex primer (luckily no surprises this time) to seal the compound.

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Also took the hose hangars off the wall, filled the holes and primed the spots. Got a board for a kickplate at the bottom of the wall - it's not quite as high as the other board, but at this point I don't care if it isn't an exact match, at least it'll be better. All I need to do is cut it to length, prime it, attach it to the wall and caulk the joints and I'll be ready to paint. Spent a good part of the day cleaning out the garage in anticipation of the paint - took the shelves off the wall, scraped and sanded the spots underneath the vertical brackets (aka "standards") and brushed off the cobwebs.

Another issue I noticed was the frame of the garage. A few years ago we had the garage door replaced and the guys that installed the trim left some unsightly bare spots along the length, plus the frame itself was looking shabby in spots. Spent some time scraping and sanding the spots and paid particular attention to the bottom of the frame as there was dry rot there, so I really had to take my time and sand all the loose wood fibers off. Then the primer came out.

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I taped up the trim with blue tape - not so much for the primer as it's nearly the same color as the trim, but for the red which will require probably 3 coats. Posted Image

Speaking of red, I didn't do hardly any painting outside today at all. Rain was forecast for 5pm and I didn't want to risk applying latex outside. I figured that the oil primer would be fine so I sanded those two water putty repair jobs on the North side and primed them and also scraped and primed the board underneath the gutter on the Northwest corner by the chimney. It wasn't quite as bad as I thought but still needed attention. No pics of this unfortunately.

Tomorrow will probably be trim day: I wanna get all the red areas painted with as many coats as I can safely do. And possibly cut, prime and install the garage wood kickplate. When that's all done then I want to roll on the final coat of paint on the boards outside. That would finish off the outside and the final thing would be to paint the inside of the garage (just going to do the walls, the ceiling looks great yet). Might also prime and paint the door inside the garage going into the house - I think it would look better. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 01:43 PM

All told, Zombie went in bold and got it sold! Posted Image

The fast "renovation" work you've done outside absolutely had a part in that in my view. First impressions matter and you definitely did away with the rougher edges, particularly on the West side.

That wall inside the garage is coming along right fine and once you put in the section of kickplate and start painting it all things will be as if new.

The lower part of the frame of the garage door sure had some shedding to do but it looks quite passable now.

Time to deliver with all the trimmings then! Posted Image

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 07:28 PM

I wonder what the added value of your work was - if the house would have been sold at all without it... Great job, Z! From start to sale, just great.

I did do some work around the house, too. I might ever necro a certain thread a bit, being inspired by a certain individual here. I'm pointing no fingers.

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Posted 22 October 2020 - 12:36 AM

View PostSpace Voyager, on 21 October 2020 - 07:28 PM, said:

I wonder what the added value of your work was - if the house would have been sold at all without it... Great job, Z! From start to sale, just great.

The house probably would have sold no matter what I did to it, but like you and Mr T mentioned, it sure helped to sweeten the deal. It technically was on the market for maybe a week and we had 3 potential buyers. If it was left on the market for longer it's possible we might have been able to get a better price as all my work would be done.

View PostSpace Voyager, on 21 October 2020 - 07:28 PM, said:

I did do some work around the house, too. I might ever necro a certain thread a bit, being inspired by a certain individual here. I'm pointing no fingers.

Looking forward to that. Besides, I'm running out of viable weather and painting projects. Posted Image

Today I was seeing red. Well, red trim paint, and lots of it. The West side got one final coat on the fascia and one temporary coat on the peak.

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You can probably see that inside the garage the kickplate is in place. I cut that to size today and checked it for fit and it was perfect. Needs to be primed yet and the joint needs to be caulked but that's good to go. Anyhow, I ended up caulking the top rotten section of the window on the West side. Water putty would have taken too long to cure and I couldn't find the old piece of brick molding to replace so caulk it was. Just used some tan caulk as it was already open and I didn't want to cut open my final tube of gray. The window then got another coat of red.

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The upper frame needs another coat and possibly the window ledge and also the caulk joint between the window and the frame.

Put two coats on the fascia above the front door on the South side today and as a bonus I also slapped a coat on the flashing on the roof as it looked pretty bad.

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Same deal to the garage door frame: two coats.

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The red paint was going on nice and even today so it's possible that only two coats are necessary but I'll have to investigate that after it dries fully to determine if anything is peeking through. My only worry now is that it's supposed to rain in the early morning hours of Thursday with the greatest chance after 6 AM. Hopefully everything dries properly by that time. Posted Image

So besides the little bit of red touchup, the only thing left on the outside is the boards themselves. Roll one coat on them and it'll be finished. Of course, it all depends on the weather. If I can't get to it right away I can always work inside the garage.

Talked to the new owner today as he was over at the house to hear what the home inspector had to say about the place. He seemed pleased about me painting the trim and was fine with me painting just the walls inside the garage and the new wood kickplate. His wife/SO was making a little bit of a stink about me taking the shelves down inside the garage, but I mentioned that it was easier to paint the walls with them off and I could leave them to reinstall if they really wanted them back. The owner said what I was doing was fine and that I could take everything back. Besides, everyone is different in how they want their garages set up. Posted Image Probably dodged a bullet there and it helped that I built a rapport with the owner too. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 22 October 2020 - 05:52 PM

A touch of crimson will most assuredly delight, Zombie leaves naught undone as often others might. ;)

For one thing, I can tell you the coat on the flashing on the roof did the trick - looks smashing!

And congrats on successfully navigating the minefield that can be the husband / wife quirks divide. I guess this means you'll be skipping the possible paint job on that door inside the garage. Their loss. :P

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Posted 23 October 2020 - 03:23 AM

View PostThorondor, on 22 October 2020 - 05:52 PM, said:

I guess this means you'll be skipping the possible paint job on that door inside the garage. Their loss. Posted Image

I wouldn't say that's completely off the table. If I see the new owner I'll ask to see what his plans or wishes are. It'll need a good sanding and coat of oil primer to make sure the varnish doesn't start to peel off underneath (it seemed pretty solid to me when I was scrubbing it). And I think I'd have enough latex paint left to put on a coat, though because it's a satin finish I'll probably have to roll it on and not brush it. ;)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!




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