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#321 Thorondor

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Posted 19 August 2020 - 09:05 AM

Much better lighting on the pics of the insignia this time, Zombie, further make it striking. :)

One can see some imperfections (abrasion/cratering in the metal), but that's like a charming hint of patina after all your fine restoration work.

As for that full peeling treatment on the East side wall, I can imagine it gave you a fair bit of a workout having to go high every so often.

Now, regarding that window, do tell, Mr. Freehand ;), what is that semicircular brown mark on the upper right pane?

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Posted 19 August 2020 - 12:32 PM

View PostThorondor, on 19 August 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

Much better lighting on the pics of the insignia this time, Zombie, further make it striking. Posted Image

The pics are better this time around because I brought it outside in direct sunlight. But I think the camera darkened the first two pics as you can't even see I put clear coat on it. ;)

View PostThorondor, on 19 August 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

Now, regarding that window, do tell, Mr. Freehand Posted Image, what is that semicircular brown mark on the upper right pane?

I think it is/was a round sticker that is still on there. This window is inside a kids room so I assume that's what it is at least. Next time I'm inside I'll check it out and try to remove it. :)

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A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
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Posted 20 August 2020 - 12:45 AM

More brushing of cobwebs and dead insects ensued today. Finally got around to priming the rest of the East side.

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At least that side is nearly ready to go. A bit of caulking is necessary though. Picked up all those piles of paint chips and debris too. Since I had the primer out I decided to start on the South side (the right window is already painted). Got a little carried away and almost forgot to take a before shot:

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And after priming.

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Must've overlooked to the far right as there are a few boards that need scraping and priming - at least I got one.

So I'm going to try to get the rest of the priming and scraping done on the South side tomorrow along with caulking on the East and South. If I have time I might hit the primed spots with the base coat of latex stain (yup, it's solid color latex stain, not regular latex paint as the stain is a little bit thinner and lets the grain and roughness of the wood peek through). Who knows, Maybe I'll work on painting the other window in the front. Not going to have a full day of painting though - my services are required at the shop in the morning. ;)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 20 August 2020 - 10:48 AM

You'll just have to pardon me this one time, Zombie, but your very respectable progress prepping the East and South sides for full priming just took a backseat to a somewhat distracting feature in the last snap you took.

Is it normal (or even efficient) to make a downspout snake / turn in a 90 degree angle relative to where it starts like that? :P

I mean it would make more sense to me to just have it stick to descending flush with one wall, thus saving on pipe bends and making for more direct drainage flow even...

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Posted 21 August 2020 - 12:27 AM

It kinda depends on a number of factors. I mean, yeah, it's certainly faster and cheaper to run the downspout down the same wall. But it could be due to drainage issues as well - you want the water to run away from the house and drain to a lower area. The East side is lower than the South and there's an empty plot of land to the East so it's just easier letting the water run that direction. Another reason is possibly some people don't like the look of ugly downspouts coming out in the front of the house. They are a little less noticeable going to the sides. Yet another reason may be that the front yard is more open with no downspouts in the way for children to play, easier to mow the lawn etc. Not every house is like this though, some have downspouts coming out in really strange places. Posted Image

Didn't have much time to paint today due to work at the store, but I was able to put in a few hours at the house at least. Precleaned the shutters on the East and South sides and they look a little better now. Got about half the East side caulked:

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So one full tube for half a side. Looks like I'm going to have to get at least 3 more tubes (probably 4-5) because once I start work on the West side that section is in terrible shape. Got the last two boards in the front scraped and primed today too.

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The horizontal boards under the overhang have some mold on them so I'm going to try bleach first. Might have to repaint the overhang if there are chips and loose paint (didn't really investigate it too close). Other than that, once the East and South sides are caulked I can put on a first coat and get everything at least protected from the elements. I have a peak to do on the South side yet - I'm not sure how bad it is till I get up on the roof. Hopefully it's just the fascia board that needs work, but you just never know. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 21 August 2020 - 11:06 AM

Want more from home recovery than just scraping by? For the quality treatment give Zombie a try! ;)

Yeah, don't skimp on the caulk. One almost always underestimates just how much of it ends up getting spent for proper coverage.

Things are moving along nicely, even with some of your time being taken elsewhere.

I guess we'll further see how it all comes together when that West side story comes into play.

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Posted 22 August 2020 - 12:22 AM

Went to the paint store today and picked up 3 tubes of caulk (was going to get 4-5 but I figured I'll be going back soon anyway). plus a big container of water putty (I'll be discussing this product when I get to the West side) a tub of premixed joint compound and some fiberglass mesh tape. So one of the projects I wanted to address is the three big holes in the drywall inside the garage. Started by taping the holes with the fiberglass mesh tape.

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Then I applied the joint compound to the tape making sure to push some into the hole. When I had it applied I took my broad knife and smoothed out the compound making sure to feather the edges a little.

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It was warm but humid today so the compound was taking forever to dry. This is what it looked like when I left:

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Yeah, that's going to take a while, but it should be good to go on Monday for sure. Need to sand the compound when it's dry and put on another thin coat of compound. Then another sanding, dusting, priming and repaint job.

Well I had the caulk so I used up nearly one full tube on the East side. Got part of the South side caulked too but ran out. I didn't want to open up another one yet so I left the rest of the South side go. Pulled out the base coat paint and brushed on a coat over the primer+caulked areas on the East side. I only did half, but it looks so much better now. Posted Image

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I didn't put too much paint on the caulk between the wall and capstone as it was a tad soft yet. I'm going to let that dry over the weekend and then paint it. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 22 August 2020 - 01:31 PM

That's some top notch band-aiding right there, Zombie. :)

The edges of the addressed spots already look suitably smooth. And your planned follow-up should literally seal the deal.

Now if there's a prime example of a "before and after" is the last pic with half the wall coated. It's almost as if the individual wooden boards represent the steps in a progress bar, filling up from the far side and towards you. ;)

There's something very satisfying about it. Your work is making a real difference and that is plain for all to see. Keep it up!

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Posted 24 August 2020 - 02:17 AM

Thanks! :)

I went to check on the East wall on Saturday afternoon (it was dry by then) and there was a little bit of peek through from the caulk and primer. I probably could have used gray caulk instead of almond but when you boil it down, the wall will require a second heavy coat anyway. I also checked on the joint compound inside the garage. The holes on the left were perfectly dry but the lower one on the right wasn't quite dry yet (it felt cold and maybe soft under the crust (didn't want to risk it and push too hard to find out for sure). My feathering job was actually spot on - just a small ridge in the middle which will go away with sanding. The second coat shouldn't take much to dry as it'll be a thin layer. ;)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 24 August 2020 - 07:30 AM

This looks like a ton of work, man... Who's minding the flowers? I hope you're not working two shifts.

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Posted 25 August 2020 - 04:29 AM

View PostSpace Voyager, on 24 August 2020 - 07:30 AM, said:

This looks like a ton of work, man... Who's minding the flowers? I hope you're not working two shifts.

My normal work responsibilities come first as always. I paint only when I get caught up and my schedule is clear. So like today we got in fair quantity of flowers in so I processed them, put them away, cleaned the cooler etc. By then it was getting pretty late to start any painting so I stayed back at the shop to hopefully get a head start on tomorrow's work which would give me the necessary time to go to the house. My hands are sometimes tied on days we get flowers in - it just depends how much we get in, how busy we are, and if I get caught up sufficiently. It's a real balancing act sometimes. ;)

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Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 26 August 2020 - 06:24 AM

Today it rained most of the morning so I didn't really want to risk going to the house to paint just in case it was going to rain more. Suppose I could have went to work on the inside of the garage, but I had stuff to do at the shop anyway.

This past winter the door handle to the small garage broke. We couldn't find a handle which would fit the hole exactly so we ended up getting something close and then modifying the door to get the handle to fit. This created a gap along the handle which I covered up with gorilla duct tape as a temporary fix.

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When the HVAC guys were here last I asked if I could have a couple small pieces of galvanized sheet metal. Today I cut out a few ovals, used the bench grinder to soften the sharp bits and sanded the edges, then sprayed on a coat of primer and two coats of white paint.

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So these ovals are going to go between the door and the handle to cover the gap. Not sure how I'm going to weatherize this fabrication, but I'm thinking some silicone caulk might work. I have to drill a couple of holes in it to fit but I'm going to wait on that till the paint is completely hard and dry.

Oh, and I have a couple old plywood boards which I lay on the concrete in the small garage so things don't get wet. I had lifted these boards up a few weeks ago and noticed that the bottom was raw plywood and was covered in black mold. I bleached off the mold, rinsed off the boards and applied a coat of white primer. The top of the boards is gray so I wanted the bottom to match a little so I went over the white with a gray primer (after caulking any big gaps in the grain of the wood.

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Looks kinda white in the picture but I assure you it's gray. So I might go over the whole shebang with the gray polyurethane sometime to protect the wood from further damage.

Anyhow, that's what I did for painting at the store. It's a start, right? :)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 26 August 2020 - 08:37 AM

Rain or shine - Zombie's Customs - a fabrication sensation! ;)

Those ovals should do just fine. It does look like the door handle itself could use some love as it seems caked with something?

As for the plywood boards, sure, I'll take your word for it.

*Foghorn Leghorn voice* Gray he says... Must've taken a tumble when he was little. Shook that ol' noggin' loose around the hinges. Poor kid. ;)

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Posted 27 August 2020 - 01:13 AM

View PostThorondor, on 26 August 2020 - 08:37 AM, said:

Those ovals should do just fine. It does look like the door handle itself could use some love as it seems caked with something?

Just some residue from the Gorilla duct tape I removed. It'll come off easily enough with lacquer thinner. Posted Image

Went over to the house today. First thing I did was caulk the remainder of the South side and then also caulked the cracks between the boards. Then, while that was drying I sanded the 3 spots in the garage, brushed it off and then applied another coat of joint compound. This is what that looked like at the end of the day:

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Nearly dry, so I could probably hit that with primer this week. Going to require another light sanding yet, but not too much as my technique was pretty good. ;)

By this time I figured the caulk had probably skinned over sufficiently to paint so I got out the stain and brush and polished off the East side:

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Looks a lot better now. Then it was on to the South side. and holy smokes, the caulk was nearly hard already so I had no trouble paining over anything.

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Much, much better. With the first coat on I can finally address the boards under the overhang. It looks like there's some mold on there so it'll have to be bleached. And I'm not sure how it will look after the bleaching so I'm planning on rolling the boards with a fresh coat of stain.

You are probably wondering why I caulked the spaces between the boards on the South but not on the East. Well, technically those spaces shouldn't be caulked at all as it allows moisture to drain out and the boards to "breathe". On the South side though, someone had caulked a section by the front door. Not a big issue there as the overhang there is huge, but it made the boards around it look unfinished. So that's why I caulked the boards by the two windows.

On the West side it's a real crap storm as almost all the paint is peeling so something desperately needs to be done. I might just have to bite the bullet and get 10 tubes of caulk to fill in all those joints. A royal pain in the butt to caulk that much but I think I'll protect that side from the harsh sun, snow, rain and temperature swings. We shall see, haven't got to that section yet as it's too hot to work on that side in the afternoon. Mornings it will be. Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 27 August 2020 - 08:21 AM

View PostZombie, on 27 August 2020 - 01:13 AM, said:

Much, much better.
This. THIS! Sums up the whole thread! :D

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Posted 27 August 2020 - 08:43 AM

Things are looking up indeed, Zombie. :)

I like how everything is coming together on the East side so far.

Not bad on the South side either. Of course, as you've pointed out, that overhang is in need of your attention.

I notice, though, above the boards, the roof's edge/rim appears to have some minor dents here and there. Don't know if you're going to be minding those.

And I suppose it will have to wait anyway, given the clear precedence of the West side's demands. All stations at the ready for the Caulkocalypse! :P

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Posted 28 August 2020 - 03:37 AM

View PostThorondor, on 27 August 2020 - 08:43 AM, said:

I notice, though, above the boards, the roof's edge/rim appears to have some minor dents here and there. Don't know if you're going to be minding those.

I must be blind as I don't see any dents... we're talking the South side correct? The brown gutter has some moss/lichen growing on if that can be construed as a dent. There's some debris on top of the gutter maybe that's what you are seeing? The roof is relatively new so there shouldn't be any dents. Posted Image

Couldn't really get to the house today as I had other duties at the store and a short day anyway (left an hour early for a wedding anniversary party). I was able to work on the boards in the garage a little. Decided if I was going to do the bottom I might as well do the top as well. Caulked the cracks and put on a coat of gray latex primer, then blasted the boards with hot air from two fans on high. Talk about super fast dry times! No pics of this as it looked like the other side.Posted Image

If it's not raining too much tomorrow I could probably pop over to the house. The spots of new plaster inside the garage need to be sanded and primed yet, and I do have nearly a full gallon of paint so I could do a couple walls or so. Plus there's always scraping on the West side. Ha! Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 28 August 2020 - 09:07 AM

Not the first time I don't know what I'm looking at. Posted Image

South side indeed, Zombie. Here's a crop with a spot marked (click to enlarge):

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Peanuts compared to the Wild West, so never you mind. Posted Image

Hope you're staying cautious - party settings aren't exactly working out very well for a good deal of people that have dared it, at least over here.

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Posted 28 August 2020 - 02:03 PM

View PostThorondor, on 28 August 2020 - 09:07 AM, said:

Not the first time I don't know what I'm looking at. Posted Image

South side indeed, Zombie. Here's a crop with a spot marked (click to enlarge):

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Thanks. Yes indeed, that is gray lichen living on the brown gutter so no dent. I'll see about getting a better pic of it sometime. ;)

View PostThorondor, on 28 August 2020 - 09:07 AM, said:

Hope you're staying cautious - party settings aren't exactly working out very well for a good deal of people that have dared it, at least over here.

It was a very small "party" - just some immediate family and a couple close friends at a restaurant in a private room. I was able to snag the farthest seat at the end of the long table so that was good. Wore a mask when I wasn't eating or drinking too just in case. ;)

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!

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Posted 29 August 2020 - 01:19 AM

More darn rain today. So I decided to put some of that gray polyurethane on those boards in the small garage. Turned off the flash on the camera because it was actually making the pictures darker.

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I'm going to put one coat on the back and then call it "good enough". While I had a brush wet it's probably a good idea to put another coat on our flower cutter table:

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Forgot to do the galvanized metal tub, but that's ok - I'll do that another time. Looked at the long table in the back room and it could probably stand to get another coat eventually. Same with the two rolling tables by the back cooler. Can't forget about that table where I replaced the top a couple years ago (the top could use another coat and I never got around to painting the frame of it). Need to get a couple more gallons of that polyurethane! Posted Image

Wouldn't you know it, as soon as I got done painting at the store the rain stopped and the sun came out. Quick went over to the house to maybe get a couple hours in. Scraped the two stickers off that window on the South side:

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Right above the window is the lichen on the gutter:

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Probably going to bleach that section of gutter as there's all sorts of mold and lichen growing on it. Yuck! Posted Image

Checked the spots I patched in the garage and they were perfectly dry so I sanded them and brushed them off. I had the same primer I used the last time I painted inside the garage so I decided to use that. While picking up the can I became aware that the lid was bulged out quite a bit. I figured someone maybe dropped the can at one time. Took a paint key and lightly tried to pry the lid off. KABOOM! The damn top to the can exploded off scaring the crap out of me. Apparently the paint started to "work" in the can (not sure whether the organisms in the can went through aerobic or anaerobic respiration but it caused pressure to build). Needless to say, if you ever run across a bulging can of paint, be very careful opening it. I'd duct tape the lid down and maybe tie a string around the can before breaking the seal. And don a power suit! Posted Image Ahem. Anyhow, the primer still smelled fine so I used it for the spots:

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There is a window on the wall opposite from the spots and it was in tough shape with a lot of peeling. Ended up taking off the bottom molding entirely to get at the frame which was caked in paint. Sanded the molding down with 50 grit sandpaper to get rid of the paint and old putty and did the same with the frame.

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There is actually a crack in the glass in the lower left corner so it's possible we'll be replacing the glass. This is on the inside, on the outside is the infamous West wall. Took a couple pics of that before I get carried away.

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It looks pretty good from afar, but once you get close you can see how badly the paint is peeling. In the closeup pic you can see there are a couple patches in the wood right above the capstone. This is where that tub of water putty I purchased will come into play - all those patches are loose so it will have to get removed and filled. Plus the Caukpocalypse 2020™ for the cracks. Posted Image Posted Image

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JellyfishGreen said:

Zombie: Empirical data's your only man, when formulating a research plan.
A soldier's death is never in vain if it makes the formula more plain.
A few dozen make a better case for refining that third decimal place.
They call me Zombie because I don't sleep, as I slowly struggle to climb this heap,
of corpses, data points, and trials, but from the top - I'll see for miles!




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