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Veki

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Stupid fish. bleh.gif

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But here is some good news! Anti-Matter is ours. Now we need fish language ASAP.

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Surely we can be friends?

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FUCK! wallbash.gifverymad.gif

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Fish-bird alliance. Not good. Also, fish have Anti-Matter.

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Just clearing swarm from a planet in our cluster. And it's a nice planet. smile.png

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Much needed research.

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And first result from said research.

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More research.

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Another queen.

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And more research.

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Well, this is a very nice planet. Look at all the infrastructure. Also note a yellow fleet in the middle of the screen.

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And even more research.

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Ugh, 2nd Zuul. This does not look good.

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And I found the quote from the kerberos forums :P

 

NOBODY expects the Hiver Inquisition! Our chief weapon is far casting... far casting and neutronium rounds... neutronium rounds and far casting.... Our two weapons are neutronium rounds and far casting...and thick armour.... Our *three* weapons are neutronium rounds, far casting, and thick armour...and an almost impenetrable gate system... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as neutronium rounds, far casting.... I'll come in again.
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Let's see how good these Zuul are. They have HCL.

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But they are no match for us (for now).

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They invite us to form NAP, but choose to engage in combat nonetheless.

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Useless birds. So many ships and look at that pathetic damage to queen. Of course if I were instead of queen I'd get 10x damage. wallbash.gif

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We have colonized 2 planets.

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And what do we have here? Alien fleet detected?

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Swarm again. sad.png

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Ranking doesn't look good. But BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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DN already!?

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But it's no problem for us.

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Still quite weak in firepower and armor.

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We need more firepower.

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We have ~25 colonies and I'm building freighters as much as I can. I try to have 1 mil in treasury as that gives us +1 morale thus negating -1 morale from population limit.

 

 

One DN is no problem for us.

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Say hello to my little friend!

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You may notice that our DN did 0 damage. That's because I forgot to take SS during combat (only 1 at start) so I replayed this battle. In the 2nd and 3rd and 4th replay DN just wouldn't spawn. Don't know why it spawned on 1st try.

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Well, looks like we'll have to behave and be good for now.

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6 ships? Well, that shouldn't be a problem for us. We have a DN. smile.png

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6 DNs!? blink.png

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Peacekeeper to the rescue!

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And more firepower!

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We ask our feathered friend for some research help.

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Armada CnC? That's not good.

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Next turn we ask for more research help.

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Again Peacekeeper help us. smile.png

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57 ships!?

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And we manage to get more research help. smile.png

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I underestimated this battle and lost 3 CR and DN was seriously damaged. One CR had Node cannon. wallbash.gif

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Another queen. We got good money.

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Lucky for us, it's just a lot of DE. smile.png

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Zuul CR managed to get to my ships before Peacekeeper destroyed them.

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Peacekeepr for the win!

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This Zuul ha more advanced weapons than purple Zuul.

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And we have Cutting beams! yahoo.gif Next, Armada CnC.

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3rd Zuul. Looks like they're all around us. sad.png

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DN + blazer. Not good.

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Heavy stormers, Fusion cannon and Fusion torpedo. Definitely not good.

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More research. We have met Tarka, but I didn't see any ships nor colonies.

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We see future targets. killcrazed.gifdevil.gif

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Depends on your definition of "fortunate". :P:D

 

But really, Zuul are very weak. They are 8th, 7th and 6th in rankings while I'm 5th. I'll try to use that to my advantage and try to eliminate at least 1 Zuul, most likely purple Zuul. I just hope it doesn't surrender to other Zuul as that would really complicate things and make my expansion really hard.

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Let's be friends, shall we?

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Managed to get more research help from birds and fish. smile.png

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We colonized a very nice planet (HZ of 15) and we have 2 fleets incoming.

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2 battles and 2 victories.

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More research.

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Peacekeeper has left the galaxy!

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Some cleanup battles. Notice that VN has been destroyed on Morrigi planet. I'm parking a gate and a colonizer there in wait of Berserker. devil.gif

Also note another VN has been destroyed on uninhabited planet. A turn later I colonized it. I wonder if VN Berserker will visit it. sad.png

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We really want to make love with space sirens.

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More cleanup battles. I do have somewhat of a problem with Node cannon. It kills my CR in 1 shot and AI waits for me to come to him so he can shoot me. I'm using my DN to draw its fire while my CR flank it.

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A small ship that will help us a great deal.

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Guess what I'm sending to Zuul worlds. grin.gif

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2 small battles.

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And 4 reconnaissance missions.

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I doubt yellow Zuul is sending 26 DE.

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Yep, Peacekeeper will be back. Here's another update. Things are getting interesting.

 

 

Yeah, only 3 DE. sad.png

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But we have DNs and Cutting beams. smile.png

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Remember that Morrigi colony that destroyed VN a couple of turns ago? I sent a colonizer to that colony (you can see it leaving the colony with STL engines, it's just 1 turn away from colony) in hope Berserker would destroy it. And since we have a gate at the colony and we all know auto-resolve is crap at calculating battles, we're going to watch it (all 10 minutes). grin.gif

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A funny thing happened. Berserker collided with an asteroid and pushed it towards the planet. I expected that it would hit it and cause massive damage, but as you can see nothing happened.

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This report deserves to be seen in all its glory! I did reload a couple of times after this battle and used auto resolve to see how different this battle would be. Morrigi lost 2-4 CR and Berserker was destroyed.

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Finally this research tree is over. Now we'll go for Impactors. We'll need them to counter Zuul Node Cannon (and they look awesome when they hit enemy ship).

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Now we can finally increase population without overharvest.

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4 CR are not a problem.

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We grab the former Morrigi planet. Courtesy of VN Berserker. And we're researching towards Impactors.

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Purple Zuul is trying to intercept our scouts. I stopped our scouts when they were 2 light years from Zuul colonies to have a good view of their defenses.

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Impactors are within our reach. And we're no longer last in income. wink.png

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We cleared Alien derelict and killed a Queen. What is important is that we have green Zuul fleet of 8 DN coming to world where we have a gate. Since it's only a gate, I'm not going to fight that fleet. In the background you can see yellow Zuul fleet of 15 ships coming to our colony.

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Behold Zuul DNs.

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Gate is destroyed, but I saved the scout so I can leave it near the planet. Note Lancers and X-Ray lasers.

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Veki, the CH difference between you and Liir is far too high for Xenopopulation. Seriously, it would take AGES to populate the rest of the civilians. In your place I'd go for Tarka OR, perhaps even better in your position as no race is VERY close, I'd terraform your already fully (to the non-overpopulation half limit) populated worlds to fit Liir CH - IF it won't eat into your own numbers - and let Liir multiply in an environment they are most adapted to. You can terraform the worlds back to your own ideal CH later if you want, though it would have no effect on the game after the worlds are full.
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Yellow Zuul fleet is dealt with.

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Impactors are ours! We now have heavy hitter weapons, but we lack armor. Since our enemies have decent weapons, our ships look like they are made of paper. And since we're fighting Zuul, we need info about their node lines.

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A brave move by Liir. That Zuul planet is heavily defended (they have 8 or more DNs there).

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Another cleanup battle. I'll stop posting big reports about these small and insignificant battles.

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Soon we'll be able to predict Zuul movement and that will help us tremendously.

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A hard battle, but Impactors saved the day! And we have our first salvaged tech! yahoo.gif

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We researched better engines and superior armor.

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I have not met humans yet nor I've seen any of their ships nor I have their Xenotech for research, but they were asking for Ceasefire for 2-3 turns in a row. Probably some bug.

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1st Zuul colony destroyed by us. And another salvaged tech. :woot:

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I hope we'll salvage Adamantite Alloys. And we can research X-Ray laser. I hope research tree it doesn't stop on them.

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I'm impressed with Impactors. They are somewhat of a cheat considering their range and knockback. 3rd salvaged tech. :thumbsup:

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Lots of research is completed. I was hoping Assault command section for CR would have 2 heavy beams, but it just has 1 torpedo. That sucks. :down:

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2nd Zuul colony has fallen. :killcrazed:

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You may wonder why I'm going for Drone research tree. :alien:

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Colony saved. 0 casualties. New salvaged tech. :cool:

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Well as Hiver your chance for Adamntine Alloys is the best, second is Tarka then Humans I believe. Also you might want to check Thumpers. They are very strong despite the low diagram values. Quite accurate, quite fast firing and quite deadly. Any DN ship will just fly backwards and will not be able to shoot back at you - except Liir probably because they have to cheat on everything.

 

Also I am glad they changed the sections in SotS2 - for example the War section in Sots1 is quite useless as far as I can see. Why on earth you want HCL to fire broadside instead of forward :/

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I am. grin.gif Do tell!

Hint : take a look where does that tech tree lead. wink.png

 

BTW, if you recall the 1.7.2 version was even more powerful, so they nerfed them slightly in 1.8.0.

I don't recall as I wasn't playing the game at that time. grin.gif

 

Tarka and Humans have 40% for Adamantite Alloys. Hope one of them has it.

Thumpers look nice and they will supplement Impactors nicely.

True, War section is a joke. grin.gif

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Any DN ship will just fly backwards and will not be able to shoot back at you - except Liir probably because they have to cheat on everything.

 

:D These fish have really gotten under your skin! ;)

 

Also I am glad they changed the sections in SotS2 - for example the War section in Sots1 is quite useless as far as I can see. Why on earth you want HCL to fire broadside instead of forward :/

 

I've experimented a bit with broadsides and there is just no way to match the firepower of forward facing sections. No way. So yes, it is useless.

 

Hint : take a look where does that tech tree lead. ;)

 

Oh yeah, there is another link through drones! Funny, I seem to always get it through Expert Systems...

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