^this. Absolutely. Exactly. It simply doesn't work.



Trust me, male minds aren't any better, men are only faster so they develop less problems on the way

FA, one way to maybe ease your shyness a bit would be to give her some signs before you ask, e.g. send her a mail with cute pictures of bunnies or puppets and write something like "This makes me think of someone special..." , add some heart icons. Basically, make tiny steps into her direction before going full power and asking her directly.

BUT do something. Or a less shy guy will ask her before you. Been there, done that.

I agree with everything else but THIS.

No no no... No gay stuff when you are courting a woman, please. No farting and otherwise very manly redneck stuff either.

Just be normal, ask her as if you're asking her what is the time. Not uninterested though! You want her to come, but don't make it look like your life depends on it!

And, as was already said, expect a no. This does not (necessarily) mean she doesn't like you, she may just be a little shocked to get a proposal if you haven't given weird hints (like bunnies and other freaky cuddly stuff) in advance.

If nothing else she will
- know you are interested
- not have you for a woos
- not think of you as her new girlfriend.

Seriously, you have NOT A THING to lose.

And if it turns out to be a no, don't let it be the end of it! I mean, don't push for this same thing over and over, but do find new stuff to invite her to. Like... Avatar, he he he! Not because of the romance, no no no, but there is this cool 3D stuff in it. You watched? So what?

I don't think a sub-par James Cameron film would be a healthy starting point for any relationship.

And no gay shit, agreed.

But first of all, I actually have to see her to talk to her, and our schedules haven't been coinciding often recently. I'll have to think up some excuses...

So go do it already!

Alright, alright, I'M GOING.

You guys make me laugh...The cute pictures were only a (very individual, agreed) example on what to do: If FA would not do something soon he would lose the opportunity to do anything at all.

Otoh, the cute pics mail helped me a lot several times, so...
Even had a date with 2 wimmen at the same time and the same place because of them mails...

I guess it is like with everything else: It doesn't really matter what kind of sign you give, if it is really coming from your heart one can feel it and it is convincing. If not... well then do not try it, easy as that.
The essential ingredient is: Activity.


Good! And just in case: Remember that you will benefit even of a NO, it doesn't mean the end of the world.

On a somewhat serious sidenote: I must admit I find the term Gay rather offensive and inappropriate^, albeit I know you didn't mean it that way. I have a lot of good friends that are gay and well I know for sure that they would not like my idea of sending cute emails neither, so go figure.

I hope you do not use any similar language when asking the girl out...

And? Did all the good wishes help? I hope for the best....

With such a seemingly complex and illogical matter shall we perhaps turn to science?



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Popular science at its best...

God, I don't have any money as it is...

I thought it was Girls = Evil?

Depends on the pciture you look at, i think.

I just have one more thing to say: this thread is worthless without pictures. And no, we don't want pictures of you.

Thanks Thorondor, I was looking for that pic, really!

Bad math. "To find a women you need time and money" does not translate to multiplication, it's addition. Therefore,

Woman = Time + Money
Woman = Money + Money = 2*Money
Woman = 2*SQRT(Problems)



Edit: I should also mention that money is the root of all evil, not problems, so technically:

Woman = 2*SQRT(Evil)

Scary stuff.

- Zombie

However you do the math, the answer's still the same

Sorry to hijack this FA, but I have a question about those mystical "girls" everyone seems to be talking about.

So I was at this Catholic music festival last Saturday and after it was over, there was some food and drinks and socializing. Naturally, there were lots of girls and I was in a group with a friend and some girls joined and we talked. I think one of them may be interested in me and I need to verify this so I would welcome your input. I'm generally pretty inexperienced with women (they ignored me up until recently ) which is why I'm asking. I could also use a female perspective so if you have a girlfriend, wife, or female friend I'd appreciate it if you asked her.
Here's what made me "suspicious": I noticed her looking at me, and I don't mean the normal "looking at me", it's more like those glances of interest (I suck at describing this...). I chose to ignore this, but during the conversation I mentioned I was a graduate* CS student and she seemed somewhat impressed by this. When she was about to go she said goodbye to my friend and when she was saying goodbye to me she asked if I was coming to a meeting this coming Saturday, which I was planning to do anyway so I said yes.
My question is: am I reading too much into this? I would also like to add that the same thing happened on Tuesday. I was talking to some girl the entire time and as she was going she also asked me if I was going to be attending on Saturday. So... yay or nay?

The funny thing is, 2 years ago I would be completing disregarding this. I used to do the Johnny Bravo thing ("oh yeah, she digs me") for fun, but then things started to happen and it wasn't my imagination anymore. There's some funny stories there, maybe I'll share them some day.

*Note: in our school system graduate means you're done with all your semesters (no more lectures) and just need to pass the remaining exams and write your thesis. It's a special status that means you're pretty much done.

I guess the main question is whether you are interested in her?

Otherwise from what you have written I'd say there is interest on her part... For what to do etc.... this thread is full of suggestions.

Definite interest. If you're not interested in someone being there, you just don't bother asking.

Being as close to objective as my puny male brain can manage, it's one of those statements which you can read too much into, but I have never used it myself without being interested in that person in some way.

Suppose it depended if she sounded genuinely interested in you being there or whether she was just making conversation - you'd be able to tell the difference by the tone of her voice.

I think the making conversation thing happens more at an older age or in the workplace when there's a lot more small talk though so I'm guessing she's interested.

Last time I saw the object of my affections she blew my tiny male mind. I was strolling around work pretending to be busy, saw her similarly between tasks and wandered over. "Is the proton accelerator* upstairs?" I asked.

"Yes, it's downstairs." She said.

I stared slack-jawed, a caveman faced with fire. My brain just blew a fuse.






*This isn't what I was looking for, but it sounds much cooler.